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  1. #21
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    Re: the composite plates, do these have a “shelf life” and considerations for storage in extreme temperatures (e.g. a car in the summer sun)? I have heavy steel plates because I don’t have to think about that, but if these are light and won’t “expire” in 2 years or something, then I’d like to add a set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinstonSmith View Post
    Re: the composite plates, do these have a “shelf life” and considerations for storage in extreme temperatures (e.g. a car in the summer sun)? I have heavy steel plates because I don’t have to think about that, but if these are light and won’t “expire” in 2 years or something, then I’d like to add a set.

    In my experience...the expiration dates are so that agencies will buy new vests periodically. Recently at a class we shot one of my old level 3 vests...a twenty year old plus unit. Other than rifle level rounds, 5.7, or 223...things did not penetrate...even 12 ga slugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinstonSmith View Post
    Re: the composite plates, do these have a “shelf life” and considerations for storage in extreme temperatures (e.g. a car in the summer sun)? I have heavy steel plates because I don’t have to think about that, but if these are light and won’t “expire” in 2 years or something, then I’d like to add a set.
    Talking with a manufacturer, most plates will last a lifetime. They just can’t warranty them that long, because they don’t know what kind of abuse they will be subjected to. But under normal use, expect them to last well past the expiration date.
    “This is no time for ease and comfort. It is the time to dare and endure.” - Churchill

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    Bingo.

    NIJ tests confirmed this. All they really have is a warranty date.

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    Thanks guys!
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    pre ordered - thanks SI!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShopMonkey View Post
    they can expand a lot, they are sized for the plate not the body. the same carrier will fit everyone in the shop. like i said, if it can fit my fat ass, you're good
    I was looking for the answer to the ‘does it come with front and back plates’ question above. Also, does the carrier itself offer any handgun protection, or is it the plates that do the work? I would like to get the rifle version based on Gabe’s comment, but am wondering if the non-plate material stops handgun rounds. Thanks!

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    holy shit, plates - plural, yes front AND back

    plate carriers are not going to stop anything standalone without a kevlar weave, which you will not find on a standalone carrier, but rather as an add-on soft armor layer

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  9. #29
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    I really wouldn't advise cutting corners especially with anything meant to save your life...
    IIIA armor is plenty concealable you just have to dress around it. It helps if the carrier is in a none "tactical" color so you can blend it with an undershirt..
    Besides you would be surprised (or maybe not) at how un alert the public is and how much you can get away with..

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    I might add...HR4568, (Responsible Body Armor Possession Act), was introduced and died in Congress not long ago, (under Trump). I suspect another bill will come up sometime in the future along the lines of 4568 since the Democrats are in power, now. In 4568, if you already have the armor you can keep it. It is already a felony to commit a crime with armor on but they want to take away all forms of self protection. When this was rolling around in Congress is when I bought my 3A vest. Things to think about.

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