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    Default 10 NOTES FOR THE UC OPERATOR...or surveillance guy

    1). If you try too hard to look and talk like a thug, you will look like a cop trying to look and talk like a thug.

    2). Don't be clean cut...but don't look like a homeless dude either. And don't smell. Pick out who you are and live it.

    3). Two men don't hang out unless they are gay...have a girl on your team and don't be shy about putting your arm around her.

    4). Shitcan 5.11, Maxpedition, Vertx, or any other brand name stuff unless you want to send the message "bad motherfucker cop can't wait to bust a cap in some homie's ghetto ass"

    5). Learn to talk modern urban "motherfucker" like English was your second language.

    6). There is a time to be grey and humble, and a time to scare the living shit out of everyone in the room. Know your times...homeboy.

    7). Emotional yelling is for bitches. If you want a motherfucker to know you are going to kill him unless he does what you say...tell him calmly.

    8). Homies are not afraid of your gat, or your shit, or your badge...they are afraid of you...or not. And fear must be earned.

    9). Have your legend so real, you dream in your alter ego, and talk to your fam like they were homies in the hood. UC work is not conducive to a happy home life in suburban America.

    10). At the end of the day, when you walk into a room with a bunch of homies, have your mind made up to kill every motherfucker there - guilty or not...even if nothing happens its a good spiritual exercise.
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    Wisdom.. price for which paid for dearly I expect.

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    Default 10 Rules UC/Surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanNobody View Post
    Wisdom.. price for which paid for dearly I expect.
    Indeed Sir.

    From observations at two posts in my AO; Versace and MCM appear to be the clothing brands of choice for homeboy/trouble makers.

    However the Anarchist/Marxist insurgence should be the targets of observation/surveillance.We have had surveillance on their
    "scouting" attempts and social media is monitored. So far they have not ventured out in numbers to our AO from the nearest urban/university city ( Austin / San Marcos Tx ).
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    Maybe I'm getting old and losing my adventurous spirit, but my advice would just be to avoid UC work entirely. There is no way to fight in the sewers without getting dirty. The primary argument against my advice is built upon the idea that someone has to do it, so you should be willing. But I don't believe that someone has to do it. For someone who is a true believer in the War on Drugs, perhaps there is a necessity for UC work. But I'm not a true believer. I would ignore some of the crimes that we focus on today, and others I would choose to address from afar....with artillery.

    A friend from law school went to work with a task force called Operation Blue Ridge Thunder, whose name reveals absolutely nothing about their mission. They were devoted to stopping crimes against children that originated on the internet--kiddie porn, sex trafficking, and such. It's hard to think of a more noble pursuit than tracking down pedophiles and locking them up. But there is no way you could get me to do that job. I'm too selfish. I saw what that job did to the guys who worked it. Their hearts were crushed. Their marriages dissolved. They were ruined.

    I would sacrifice my life on the field of battle without hesitation. I don't fear bullets or bombs or sword-wielding mujahedeen on horseback. But I do fear the darkness. I choose to live in the light.

    Some men here will be drawn--or perhaps called--to drop down into the sewers and work in the darkness. But I would offer a word of caution to anyone considering that path. It is not a glamorous life of adventure. Gabe's words are true, but they are presented with a bit of glamour. The job is not glamorous. If you go down that path, you are sacrificing part of yourself; part of your soul.

    I'll remain in the light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    A friend from law school went to work with a task force called Operation Blue Ridge Thunder, whose name reveals absolutely nothing about their mission. They were devoted to stopping crimes against children that originated on the internet--kiddie porn, sex trafficking, and such. It's hard to think of a more noble pursuit than tracking down pedophiles and locking them up. But there is no way you could get me to do that job. I'm too selfish. I saw what that job did to the guys who worked it. Their hearts were crushed. Their marriages dissolved. They were ruined.
    I served two tours in our SAU, the second voluntarily as supervisor. Broader focus (including child homicides), same results. Had DPAs, very tough people, break down in my office wanting transfers. And I could see the toll on the investigators. Toxic independent of any UC work, which was comparatively rare. I would not do this work again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    Maybe I'm getting old and losing my adventurous spirit, but my advice would just be to avoid UC work entirely. There is no way to fight in the sewers without getting dirty. The primary argument against my advice is built upon the idea that someone has to do it, so you should be willing. But I don't believe that someone has to do it. For someone who is a true believer in the War on Drugs, perhaps there is a necessity for UC work. But I'm not a true believer. I would ignore some of the crimes that we focus on today, and others I would choose to address from afar....with artillery.

    A friend from law school went to work with a task force called Operation Blue Ridge Thunder, whose name reveals absolutely nothing about their mission. They were devoted to stopping crimes against children that originated on the internet--kiddie porn, sex trafficking, and such. It's hard to think of a more noble pursuit than tracking down pedophiles and locking them up. But there is no way you could get me to do that job. I'm too selfish. I saw what that job did to the guys who worked it. Their hearts were crushed. Their marriages dissolved. They were ruined.

    I would sacrifice my life on the field of battle without hesitation. I don't fear bullets or bombs or sword-wielding mujahedeen on horseback. But I do fear the darkness. I choose to live in the light.

    Some men here will be drawn--or perhaps called--to drop down into the sewers and work in the darkness. But I would offer a word of caution to anyone considering that path. It is not a glamorous life of adventure. Gabe's words are true, but they are presented with a bit of glamour. The job is not glamorous. If you go down that path, you are sacrificing part of yourself; part of your soul.

    I'll remain in the light.

    Well...on that vein one would go to college and study a sensible career path, boring, but safe. He would marry a gal that was healthy, and not a kinky nympho athlete...so you would be safe from infidelity. You'd eat a sensible diet approved by doctors, never scuba or skydive...never ride a motorcycle or lift too heavy. You'd never hunt, and always drive sensible cars. You could play it safe and sensible your entire life so nothing would ever happen. And at the end of your life...whenever that may be, young or old, you would be safe to say that nothing ever happened to you Mr. Ozzie Cleaver. Such are those lives of quiet desperation made from. l will pass on that.

    I was there, and I did those things. And to deny that it is a glamorous thing is impossible, as those who have swum in dark waters will admit when the cameras have stopped. It is not for everyone. Not everyone deserves to wear a badge, just as - the constitution to the contrary - not everyone deserves to vote or own a firearm. I lived an exciting and dangerous life filled with things that would both thrill and horrify, and filled things to be exceedingly proud of that few others could readily have done. During that time I raised two very successful children, and maintained a decades long marriage.

    I have been blessed by Churchill's tap on several occasions, and it will be a rare thing for an accountant or a doctor...or even a lawyer to experience that. And a life without one, in my opinion, for me knowing what I know and having experienced what i experienced, would be empty and nearly useless. I look back at the best of those times, and still cannot help but smile. The bullets that missed me...the ones I fired that hit, the sparring in court with attorneys that though they were brighter, the honor of a medal, the crushing weight of civil rights investigations and wrongful death suits...internal affairs...the delight of the chase, the thrill of the fight, brothers I fought beside and bled with. Heady days, and unforgettable memories, that I would not trade for another hundred years as Mister Rogers.
    Gabriel Suarez

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    I will add that the only source of stress or pain, in my time all came from administrators. Those pencil necked dudley dorights who thought they were better because their shined shoes had never stepped in blood. On the other hand...I was quite comfortable in the darkness.
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    I suspect the problem comes from having to abide by rules set up by others. You know what needs to be done but if you let the rules stop you, I suspect that would tear your guts out.
    I was born for a storm, and a calm does not suit me. - Andrew Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge View Post
    I suspect the problem comes from having to abide by rules set up by others..

    We were good at "not abiding". There is an art to the Illusion of Abiding. Guys that cannot break a rule, will have issues.
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    Lawdog isn't wrong, but he's not quite right, either. (The vast majority of my career has been in Patrol, with a toe-dip into the world of plain-clothes/street crime work.)

    It's really a matter of degree. Simply going into LE and having an active career will take you dark places. And a simple check of what cops find funny will tell you that there are profound changes/differences in personalities from Joe Average. Go into a specialty like kiddie sex, or child abuse, and you'll magnify things. Go pretend to be a dirt bag, you'll magnify things. Go further and live a legend and you'll magnify things even more. There are people who can't hack the slightest exposure to the suck. There are people who can handle some, or some more.

    I've known Gabe and his family for years (several decades, actually). They've all handled things exceptionally well and anyone would be happy to have them living next door. So forays into the darkness doesn't automatically equal permanent exile.
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