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05-04-2005, 07:29 AM
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[quote=Sweatnbulletshat big.
Every time I take a SG course I also make sure to get in some work with my Rem. 870 20 gauge youth model. It also has a 12" LOP and is as fast as greased lighting. It is so small and fast, I would hate to go up against myself with that gun. It has the bead sight and is as accurate with buck shot as the GR setup. It is not quite as accurate as my GR for slugs but it will keep then inside the silhoutte out to 75 yards easily. I need to get my @$$ in a SG course, I love that tool![/QUOTE] The small .20 has a lot going for it. I had one once and liked it a lot. It gives up very little to the .12 and is faster on target with follow-up shots. At one point, there were several SWAT teams that used the .20. 
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05-04-2005, 06:18 PM
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#23
05-04-2005, 06:48 PM
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Michael,
If memory serves me correctly, some of our people were using cut down semi 20s (long ago) for some personal protection work. This was after someone who will go unnamed took a Flite-Rite through the temple.
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05-05-2005, 06:37 AM
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Guantes,
I believe they were quite popular at one time with operators who were not afraid to step out of the box and try new things. For some reason they never really seemed to catch on, but in most cases, the .20 gives up very little to the .12 at close range. Of course, there is a vast array of ammo that is available for the .12 that is not available for the .20, which is probably it's biggest drawback as an anti-personnel weapon.
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05-05-2005, 09:10 AM
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Ammo selection is a big problem for the 20.
The 870 youth model is something I had forgotten about. A great choice for home defense.
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#27
05-05-2005, 11:03 AM
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Todd, I've got the same gun. Try the Remington reduced recoil 00 buck. It's not too bad, and the performance is almost as good as full-power buck. I love my MM 870. Mine has the tritium front sight, which I like.
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#29
05-05-2005, 01:36 PM
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Winchester 1300
I just got back from salivating over all the guns at a local shop. They had a Winchester 1300 Defender in 12 and 20 ga.
Looked and felt like a fine piece. Anyone have any experience with one?
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#30
05-05-2005, 04:53 PM
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I have one; mine is a well-made weapon which is very fast indeed to handle and works well. But that lightness of course directly correlates to felt recoil however, which can be...surely felt
 My 870 is built like a tank in comparison; the Marine in me appreciates that alot. I like both however, and neither will be leaving my possession. Cruc, awaiting his preorder for Knoxx's new SpecOps (blah name) stock for his 870-will post a review when they finally ship.
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