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Thread: The Car Gun.

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    Default The Car Gun.

    Many people spend a great deal of their lives behind the wheel. - They might well be even more at risk when they are. - Carjackings, or perhaps even their job ( police officer/security etc.)
    Operators in Northern Ireland carried 'Car Guns' aswell as a pistol on their person. ( Sometimes they had a little Walther PPK 7.65/.32 ACP as a BUG too.)
    The normal carry - a BHP, would be kept as such, in the normal place ( probably strong side, behind the hip.)
    The Car Gun was a BHP, with 20 round magazine, - giving 21 rounds, in a condition 1.
    Under the thigh perhaps ? In the door 'pocket' perhaps. In a special holster, attached under the dash ? - Everybody has his/her favorite option.
    We can jump out the car, with or without the Car Gun, but are still armed with our normal carry.
    In a collision, if we lose the Car Gun, we still have our normal carry piece, in the place we will always find it.
    But fighting from a car, I think, has certain advantages if we use a Car Gun.
    Let us look at a typical civilian situation for you gents:
    For example:
    You carry a Glock 26, concealed. - Wouldn't it be better to have a Glock 17 close at hand in your car ?
    The spare mags ( Glock 17 of course,) fit both weapons. The 17 whilst perhaps alittle difficult to conceal well on your person, will be easily concealed in your car. - When parking your car, it can be dropped into a bag, if you don't wish to leave it in your car. - When out of the vehicle, your primary weapon will of course revert to your concealed weapon.
    Perhaps you like a compact 1911 ?
    So why not a full size in the car, with those excellent Wilson 10 rd mags ?
    If you have to leave your car, in the middle of a situation, and have your Car Gun in hand, even better. - Your concealed carry gun becomes a 'back-up' to it, and hopefully will accept the same mags.
    Most people would generally prefer a full size service pistol if possible for fighting, but we make concessions due to concealment 'problems', and often end up with a compact on our person.
    Just a thought, for those who live in a dangerous place, and can legally consider this option.
    Regards,
    Anthony.
    If you have to fight, do not fear death.
    We will all die one day, so fight skillfully and bravely!
    And if it is to be that you die, then at least go to God proudly.
    Meet him as the proud warrior that you once were, and not as a sniveling coward.
    Nobody lives forever.

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    Leaving a loaded gun in your car is legal here in my state, but I advise everyone against it, for the most part.

    More guns are stolen from cars than from anywhere else, at least hereabouts.

    I tell folks that they should get one of those small lockboxes with a hardened cable if they feel they must leave their gun in the car. Most auto burglars break in without the tools for opening one. (These boxes run about $30. I have one in each of my cars - unloaded, but there if I need to secure my firearm for some reason.)

    Anyway, that's my concern about what's otherwise an interesting idea.

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    Anthony, While cruising around the highways and Byways of Colombia, i keep a 4" barrel .38 on the seat next to me and my strong side carry Walther P-99 is usually put on the console. I use a Comp-Tac Pro- undercover. I find it easy you slip in and out of my waist band as i get in and out of my Land Cruiser. Here in the U.S.A., i always keep a G-17 .9mm Pistol with 17 rounds of Ranger SXT .147 grain ammo and i have an additional 33 round magazine in my door pocket with same ammo. Some people may decry leaving it in my car. However, my car has the alarm from hell, is parked in a gated community and during the day is here at my business in plan sight.

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    Many years ago, when I lived a different life, we kept a car handgun handy. It was mounted at the bottom of the steering column in a holster that has been modified to work. Was much easier to get to then the one we carried on our person while sitting in the car/truck and normally a larger calibre and gun then we would carry on our person.

    Back then we did not worry so much about it being stolen as you would now a days.

    Of course back then I lived in a more remote part of the world then I do now. Theft was taken personally.

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    Anthony my good man!!!

    G19 on my hip, G34 in seat pocket with a spare Glock 33 rounder (or is it 31? I forget, I only load it with 28) and several other G17 mags ready to go.

    Marlin .30-30 too but that's a different niche.


    "With a heavy does of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects, I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them" (Colonel Sassaman NYTimes 7 Dec 2003).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paco
    Marlin .30-30 too but that's a different niche.
    Indeed it is Paco.
    The operators also had 'longs' too. - Generally an H&K of some sort.
    As you obviously have realised, this thread is about something that can instantly be brought to use, in a confined space, and that might be alittle better than one's standard carry piece. - Even if it is just more rounds in a bigger magazine.
    Seems to me that you are good to go Paco.
    I like your combination. :)
    Regards,
    Anthony.
    If you have to fight, do not fear death.
    We will all die one day, so fight skillfully and bravely!
    And if it is to be that you die, then at least go to God proudly.
    Meet him as the proud warrior that you once were, and not as a sniveling coward.
    Nobody lives forever.

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    Default Yeah!

    Tony, thank you! I now have a use for that Sig I convinced Jill that I needed so badly!

    God bless and y'all be mindful out there.

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    [QUOTE=colombianito] with 17 rounds of Ranger SXT .147 grain ammo

    Can I have some more info on this ammo.....I have not heard of it...

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    [QUOTE=Youngman]
    Quote Originally Posted by colombianito
    with 17 rounds of Ranger SXT .147 grain ammo

    Can I have some more info on this ammo.....I have not heard of it...
    If you do a search in the ballistics forum you will should find plenty of info on the SXT.

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    Anthony, agree completely on a car gun. My argument has been that, just as on the street, someone can close on you in a non-threatening manner and then he's too close to draw on. It's bad enough un-impeded standing in the street. Sitting in a car can slow you down a lot. That's why, as I may have stated here before, I like to have gun in hand.
    The deviation is that it is not always a bigger (capacity or caliber) gun. Sometimes, it's a BUG. The important part being able to respond with something and always having your "primary" where it always resides. I used to transfer from EDC to car carry and back, but often it's difficult to do discreetly.
    It's who we are... It's what we do...

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