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  1. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Back in my walking felony days I ordered mine from CopsPlus. But who knows what regs have popped up in the last 14 years.
    “Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing.” - Optimus Prime

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  3. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Washington State

    Bought red and blue guns but never encountered the cert requirement. Out of curiosity: which vendors did you try?

    Some may be concerned with fake gun liability? Spray them black.
    Ted Demosthenes
    Suarez International Staff Instructor

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  4. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    NW Washington
    This whole thing (the vendor requirements, not the discussion) seems pretty stupid, considering there are lots of far more realistic looking toy pistols available from so many places.

    Besides, it's just an injection molded chunk of plastic, with maybe some cheap steel inside for weight. Seems like a business opportunity if they're that hard to get. And I'd think a couple very generic pistol and revolver designs would be adequate for the intended purpose without needing licensing rights from various gun makers.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Exiled in Texas
    Quote Originally Posted by Yondering View Post
    without needing licensing rights from various gun makers.
    The #1 seller would be Glock. And Glock is the most ‘enthusiastic’ enforcer of their trademark in history. If you made everything except Glock, you’d probably be fine.
    Virtute et Armis

  6. #16
    For my intended purposes a generic pistol would not work. We are incorporating more weapons into our curriculum at the dojo. As such it has to be what we carry and how we carry.
    Be alert, stand firm in the faith, act like a man, be strong. Your every action must be done with love.

    “Adversity introduces a man to himself.”

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Washington Co. Arkansas
    I'd be happy at some point for sling demo purposes to have a M16A2 , doubt a MK-12 would be produced and maybe a generic bolt action sniper rifle.

  8. #18
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Arizona's Desert
    Without knowing who the vendor is, the question can't be answered.

    There's a pretty large vendor in Scottsdale that facilitates governmental gun buy backs and equipment sales that are priced well below the typical retail market. As a courtesy, they extend their bulk order pricing to individual sales, but you have to have LEO or other qualified buyer credentials (Parole, Probation Judges etc.).
    Last edited by Cacti Rat; 10-02-2022 at 09:48 AM.

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    It could be the way they are labeled in the vendor's system.

    Amazon labeled couple models of Cold Steel's training guns are labeled "airguns" which makes them restricted to sell to people in certain states but other CS training guns are not. A person in Illinois could buy a CS Beretta but not a CS 1911 from Amazon.
    "Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away. An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as the king can." Benjamin Martin, The Patriot

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