War belt 4 or 6 mags...

[chad newton]

You might be interested in a couple of videos from Garand Thumb on Youtube. Specifically his videos Basics of RECCE and Recon Kit and Basics of Urban Combat Survival and Assault Pack Setup.

Lol... That dudes pretty funny but super good at articulating good information. I didn’t know this but my kid was already watching some of his videos. He’s pretty good compared to the rest of the bullshit on here.

[Greg Nichols]

I can't find it but it was either Greg or Sua that had an article on them. Might have been on the old blog too. From what I remember the long and the short of it was for unmounted stuff the belt is a better option because it distributes the weight better and is less taxing on the body with the weight on the hips. A chest rig was the better option for mounted work when jumping in and out of trucks because its easier to sit and you don't have to support the weight all the time on your own. If combining them try to keep more of the gear on the belt and off the armor for the same reasons. Hopefully Greg or Sua will comment.

We've written on gear a number times, but you pretty much hit it

[Greg Nichols]

Here's a thread about kit: http://www.warriortalk.com/showthrea...pective-on-CQB

[chad newton]

I think I have figured out what would work for a lot of applications. Light battle belt, pistol, 2 pistol mags, 2 rifle mags, trama kit dump pouch. I think I have settled on a company, I think I will try out esstac. I got a voodoo tactical 3 day to see how it works in conjunction with armor plus 3 mags or same type chest rig. Load 3 day pack according to mission. Esstac stuff looks pretty good actually, I’m not convinced that the Velcro 2 system belts are a good idea yet. I like the idea of being able to move around the belt and not have it stuck to you. I’m going to keep looking at different stuff. Whatever I end up with I will post.

[chad newton]

safariland ubl. select mid or low. unless you are running a rappel harness you want a rig that always keeps your pistol on the same plane it sits at when standing. i use the quick release on my ubl. it has the advantage of being quickly swappable for a different holster platform as needed, Or pulled off my belt and clipped to my nightstand at end of shift for a non migrating platform if something goes bump in the house . Any of the rigs that allow the holster to follow the leg will generally screw up a draw in positions other than standing. Mid and low models will generally clear body armor or waist straps on a backpack, select based on torso length, length of barrel on pistol. ( low ride and long barrel will generally ground out on the carseat when seated if youre not long torsoed) Just my experience, and worth what you paid for it. ;)

ubl seen here. https://safariland.com/products/cubl-vertical-belt-loop

quick release here. https://safariland.com/products/quic...stem-kit-23136

Which holster are you running? The als? I’m wondering if they have one with just trigger guard retention?

[coastalcop]

Which holster are you running? The als? I’m wondering if they have one with just trigger guard retention?

Yes I use an ALS type for RDS pistol in the "new" composite they make it out of. Safariland, and 5.11 make one with a trigger guard release, the model number escapes me right now.

[apamburn]

I like the idea of being able to move around the belt and not have it stuck to you. I’m going to keep looking at different stuff. Whatever I end up with I will post.

I think you will find this to be better in theory than in application.

If your belt isn't fixed you will find out that rapid movement will cause it to move horizontally and even that it could move vertically.

At the very least this will result in fouled draws and magazine access issues as items will be moved around, even if by only small amounts.

But maybe you will find a way around that. I'd be interested to know.

My "war belt" or "battle belt" is meant to always be worn with my plate carrier. I have

Holster
2 pistol mags
1 rifle fast mag pouch
Dump pouch
100 round SAW pouch as accessory pouch
Double mag pouch for radio, smoke, or 2 more mags if I want.

PC carries 3 mags and an IFAK.

[Papa]

I think you will find this to be better in theory than in application.

If your belt isn't fixed you will find out that rapid movement will cause it to move horizontally and even that it could move vertically.

At the very least this will result in fouled draws and magazine access issues as items will be moved around, even if by only small amounts.

Watched an actively fighting suicidal subject peel the gunbelt off a city cop before Redi Kilowatt and I came to the rescue. You don't want that belt going anywhere. I used a velcro-faced trouser belt with a duty belt cinched up tight, carrying 3-4 pistol mags, pistol, taser, two sets of cuffs, flashlight, radio, nightstick, spare flashlight, knife. And I replaced the trouser belt whenever the velcro started to fail.

[chad newton]

Yes I use an ALS type for RDS pistol in the "new" composite they make it out of. Safariland, and 5.11 make one with a trigger guard release, the model number escapes me right now.

I just was wondering what retention.

[chad newton]

I think you will find this to be better in theory than in application.

If your belt isn't fixed you will find out that rapid movement will cause it to move horizontally and even that it could move vertically.

At the very least this will result in fouled draws and magazine access issues as items will be moved around, even if by only small amounts.

But maybe you will find a way around that. I'd be interested to know.

My "war belt" or "battle belt" is meant to always be worn with my plate carrier. I have

Holster
2 pistol mags
1 rifle fast mag pouch
Dump pouch
100 round SAW pouch as accessory pouch
Double mag pouch for radio, smoke, or 2 more mags if I want.

PC carries 3 mags and an IFAK.

Thank you...