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    Default IDPA allows Appendix Carry

    IDPA rulebook dropped and Appendix carry is now allowed. If memory serves, I took a class with Gabe in 2008 and he was already a couple of years into appendix carry.... It sure took a decade plus for the shooting sports to catch up with SI.

    https://www.idpa.com/wp-content/uplo...pdate-deck.pdf

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    Wow.. I guess now its ok to carry Appendix.
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    That shit is dangerous.....
    Nothing says Fuck You like a shotgun.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Wow.. I guess now its ok to carry Appendix.
    Maybe you should advertise "Train with SI in 2022 and be ready for the IDPA 2035 rules changes"

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    We'll See....we'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostRidder View Post
    Maybe you should advertise "Train with SI in 2022 and be ready for the IDPA 2035 rules changes"
    Nah. The gun game crap is wholely incompatible with SI. SI is about killing bad things not punching paper.
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    The games have come full circle. When I first discovered IPSC in the 90s, it was common for the guys to use tricked out 2011s with red dots (massive C-More sights at the time), and then switch up to a J-frame when we went out to dinner afterward. Now you'll find guys who carry a Glock with an RMR as their EDC, but they switch up to a non-optic pistol for competition so that they don't have to shoot against the guys in the Open division.

    I enjoy gun games. I don't play them a lot, but I do play occasionally. I recognize that they have the potential to ingrain bad habits and training scars, but they also offer an opportunity to run your guns through a course-of-fire that is not of your own making, that offers a slight adrenal rush, and that forces you to do things differently than you would on your own. Used properly, competitive training can be marginally useful. More importantly--for me--it can be fun.

    IDPA, in particular, will always be subject to criticism because they are ostensibly "keeping it real." IPSC and 3-Gun, on the other hand, make no bones about the fact that they are impractical games. All of the shooting sports--even the ones that claim to be true to combat--will end up devolving toward gamery. Some people start out with a martial focus and then get distracted by the shiny things. If you are winning at the rest of life, you are less likely to get pulled into the trap of trying to win plastic trophies covered in fake gold.

    If you want to use the games to improve your practical defensive skills, my advice is this: Play the game their way, but with your gear. Don't expect to win. Don't play too much. Go out for pizza with the crew after the match, but don't proselytize to them about the hard life. Let them live in their fantasy world and pray that they never have cause to realize any of the shortcomings of their sport. (And admit to yourself that even the most ridiculous gamers are still ahead of 99% of the general population.)

    You're never going to convince the 300-pound blob with the $3k 1911 to do it any other way. But the young guys who are coming up will look at him and at you and will choose their path. Be a good example for those kids and they will follow you, without you having to engage in any silly argument over the validity of the rules.
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    They showed us that clip in the Academy back in the early 90’s. With the caveat that “there are real bad guys who train hard and can shoot like that.”

    And I will now nerd myself out…

    I’m a big Miami Vice fan. Always have been.

    The guy in that clip is Jim Zubiena. He was a weapons advisor/trainer for Don Johnson and Phillip Michael Thomas on the show. He was also a top IPSC shooter back then. (He also worked on “Nash Bridges,’ along with our old SWAT Armorer.)

    Mr. Zubiena really “shot” that scene, without speeding up the film. And in that clip you can see the training scar of the “Look left, look right, unload and show clear.”

    More nerd-ness: Zubiena gave an interview years later and stated Don Johnson was really into guns and took his training quite seriously. Zubiena said Johnson got good enough where he would he have been able to compete in IPSC at the national level. (Back then.)

    Our Team armorer also told the story that while working on “Nash Bridges” one of his jobs was to prevent Johnson from leaving the set at the end of work with his custom .38 Super.

    Apparently Johnson loved the gun and was always trying to take it home. Our armorer ended up building him one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkface View Post
    Nah. The gun game crap is wholely incompatible with SI. SI is about killing bad things not punching paper.
    Wait, WHAT?!?!

    Before every real fight I got into on the Job/on the street and every live SWAT entry I did, I ALWAYS made sure the bad guy/guys were perfectly stationary and knew they were NOT allowed to move.

    THEN I slowly walked through the actual event/incident and rehearsed everything I was going to do.

    I counted how many steps I was going to take between rooms, which foot I was going to lead with, how many rounds I was going to fire, where I was going to reload, etc.

    And THEN I responded.

    HA!
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