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    Default COWITNESS - WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN...HOW DOES IT WORK?

    I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU - WHAT DOES THE TERM "CO WITNESS" MEAN TO YOU??
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    OK my cents.

    Taken literally it means seeing two things at the same time. In our context, seeing both sighting systems at once (dot and irons).

    As for what it does:
    - Finding the dot (aka training wheels for those newer to the system)
    - Verifying dot zero
    - Backup irons if the optic fails.

    But I get the feeling you may be after something more than this? Ears/eyes open.

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    I have something I wish to express but want to hear from the tribe first.
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    Full co-witness, front/rear sights & dot are aligned with the target. 1/3 co-witness means when the front/rear sights are aligned, you see them at about the bottom 1/3 of the aperture where you see the dot.
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    For a RDS pistol, if I can see the irons, I can see the dot; if I can see the dot I can see the irons.


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    Rifle vs Pistol.

    With a rifle...does the dot need to be used WITH the irons, or is it used seperate from the irons...assuming they are not flip down sights?
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    I think of co witnessed sights as two independent sighting systems that are individually zeroed to hit the same spot at a given distance. They both need to be usable with no to minor adjustment. Different loads change where the dot zero is sometimes. 99% of the time with an RDS glock I just let the dot float out in space and use it to aim as a short cut. I don't wait till the irons are also perfectly inline with everything else. No reason too when there is no parallax to worry about. Especially with a fairly close distance. It makes things super fast when running a can too. A floating dot in the upper part of the window when held on where you want the bullet to go works every time as long as you don't screw up the rest of it.

    Its co witnessed not concurrent sights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Rifle vs Pistol.

    With a rifle...does the dot need to be used WITH the irons, or is it used seperate from the irons...assuming they are not flip down sights?
    I prefer separate unless I have no choice such as the AK and a lower 3rd co-witness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Payne View Post
    I prefer separate unless I have no choice such as the AK and a lower 3rd co-witness.


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    But even then...when you seek tgecironscon an AK...where is the dot?
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