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    Default Cz 75 full size???

    Should I get the original cz 75 or the one with the decock??? Iím thinking the decock but let me know whatís best....
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    personally i prefer decocker

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    It make things alittle safer I would think for running with the hammer down. I would prefer that over a safety....
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    The safety version allows "cocked and locked", i.e. safety on with hammer back. It also allows half cock or full DA positions with the safety on in either condition, if you prefer.
    The decocker version has no safety with the hammer back.

    Personally I much prefer the classic safety version. Those who carried decocker Berettas might prefer the decocker CZ as well. It's just personal preference, both work if you use them correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yondering View Post
    The safety version allows "cocked and locked", i.e. safety on with hammer back. It also allows half cock or full DA positions with the safety on in either condition, if you prefer.
    The decocker version has no safety with the hammer back.

    Personally I much prefer the classic safety version. Those who carried decocker Berettas might prefer the decocker CZ as well. It's just personal preference, both work if you use them correctly.
    It would work similar to a 1911, that would work too. But you have option of both with the original design.... Hmmm, more shit to think about. I like that too...
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    While I feel like I can safely lower the hammer over a loaded chamber, I really look at the classic version as a cocked and locked gun only.
    That having been said, I like it like that. But then again, I like and carry my 1911s and BHPs.

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    I have the decocker version with the Omega trigger, and I would not buy this pistol again. I really dislike the DA pull on this pistol and my P-07. The SA pull is not great either. I wish I'd gotten the regular 75B or even an old pre-B model.

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    Classic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pangloss View Post
    I have the decocker version with the Omega trigger, and I would not buy this pistol again. I really dislike the DA pull on this pistol and my P-07. The SA pull is not great either. I wish I'd gotten the regular 75B or even an old pre-B model.

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    Is your trigger stock?

    One thing about the CZ pattern guns (including CZ and the offshoot clones like Tanfoglio etc) is that trigger work is fairly complex and they pretty much all need it to some extent. Some of them get away with just some polishing and spring changes, depending how picky you are about triggers, while others need a lot more. Personally I've never handled one built in recent years that was acceptable out of the box, to me, although some older pistols get well broken in with time and feel decent enough.

    While the double action pull is usually just heavy and gritty, the single action is the worst IMO; CZ made the hammer & sear angles such that the single action pull forces the trigger to the rear a little, which makes the pull weight a lot higher and feels crappy. Some 1911 triggers are that way out of the box too, but it's generally accepted in that world that it's something to correct. Few in the CZ world even acknowledge it.

    However, with the right work these can have very nice triggers. The trigger on my Tanfo competition gun is way past where you'd want to go with a carry gun, but just as an example the double action pull is about 5.5 lb, and single action is 2 lb. That took about $400 in parts and a bunch of labor to get there though - in the ballpark of what a lot of guys spend on an entire Glock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yondering View Post
    Is your trigger stock?

    One thing about the CZ pattern guns (including CZ and the offshoot clones like Tanfoglio etc) is that trigger work is fairly complex and they pretty much all need it to some extent. Some of them get away with just some polishing and spring changes, depending how picky you are about triggers, while others need a lot more. Personally I've never handled one built in recent years that was acceptable out of the box, to me, although some older pistols get well broken in with time and feel decent enough.

    While the double action pull is usually just heavy and gritty, the single action is the worst IMO; CZ made the hammer & sear angles such that the single action pull forces the trigger to the rear a little, which makes the pull weight a lot higher and feels crappy. Some 1911 triggers are that way out of the box too, but it's generally accepted in that world that it's something to correct. Few in the CZ world even acknowledge it.

    However, with the right work these can have very nice triggers. The trigger on my Tanfo competition gun is way past where you'd want to go with a carry gun, but just as an example the double action pull is about 5.5 lb, and single action is 2 lb. That took about $400 in parts and a bunch of labor to get there though - in the ballpark of what a lot of guys spend on an entire Glock.
    Yes. Both are stock. I've had to replace the trigger return spring in the 75 twice, but that is the only modification to the 75. I've thought of sending the P-07 to Cajun to have the trigger worked over, but since I bought the guns as more of a curiosity than for any real purpose, it's hard to justify the cost. The trigger pulls on both my pistols seem to stack heavily at the end (DA) and neither break cleanly (DA or SA). If I dry fire the CZ next to other pistols, the sights move more when the hammer falls. H&Ks break cleanly in my hands, and Berettas fall in the middle. A friend has a relatively new P-01 with a nice-ish trigger. I haven't handled a lot of CZs, but my feeling is that there is more variation in their triggers than other major reputable brands.
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