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    Default Manufacturer Quality 2022

    The quality/value of various manufacturers is frequently subjective and debatable. And everyone has an opinion, but some opinions are worth more than others. I’m interested in getting feedback from the tribe here about the quality you have observed yourself. It’s okay to repeat the opinions of trusted friends who have hands-on experience, but please resist the urge to just repeat the rumors from some random guy on arf.com. As we head into 2022, what’s the state of quality today? I’m specifically interested in barrel quality.

    I don’t quite qualify as a “fanboy” of Aero Precision, but I do have a lot of their stuff. They seem to me to frequently offer the best value—quality kit at a very reasonable price. Their barrels are Ballistic Advantage, so you can buy those through either AP or BA.

    I have been impressed by the quality of Daniel Defense, but apparently not as impressed as the people selling it. To my eye, they offer the least value—quality kit, but at inflated prices.

    BCM seems to be on par with DD for quality, but generally costs a bit less. (But still well more than Aero.)

    I would steer anyone away fro Palmetto State Armory (at least for ARs), Anderson, and Spikes.

    These are some I wonder about:
    1) Faxon barrels. Are they any good?
    2) Precision Firearms. This is a builder rather than a manufacturer. They use Criterion, Bartlett, and Krieger barrels.
    3) Noveske. Worth it?
    4) Mos-Tek.
    5) Compass Lake.

    The context right now is me hunting for a 14.5” 6mm ARC barrel, but then I just started wondering where the quality and value really lies today.

    What are your thoughts and opinions?
    Virtute et Armis

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    If you plan to buy Aero or BA...consider buying them from the store. If what you want isnt shown...CALL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    If you plan to buy Aero or BA...consider buying them from the store. If what you want isnt shown...CALL
    I’ll remember that. I know you’ve favored White Oak, and I was very satisfied with the one I bought from the store. Who would make your short list today?
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    I’m in the same situation right now. Trying to decide whether to buy or build. I enjoy building but I really don’t want to this time.
    A friend of mine shot me a list of guns he’s selling, among those are a Franklin Armory AR15, a Standard Manufacturing AR, and an Alexander Arms 16” Incursion AR15, all in 5.56. I have to confess to knowing slightly less than zero about the quality of these. I only know the name Standard Manufacturing from supposedly high-ish grade 1911s.
    I need to look on the Suarez site and see if they make a 14.5 or 16” upper with the mid-length gas system.
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    I agree mostly with your assment except for Spikes. They seem to turn out good fit and finish as well as some odd ball offerings to the market
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    Spikes is good kit.

    I work as a hospice nurse now but in a previous life I worked in a gun store and built over a thousand ARs. I have seen what works and what gets brought back because it is broken. Spikes is good stuff you can take that to the bank. Have to be clear I have no financial affiliation with them in any way shape or form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    I’ll remember that. I know you’ve favored White Oak, and I was very satisfied with the one I bought from the store. Who would make your short list today?
    They will do whatever you want.....
    Nothing says Fuck You like a shotgun.....

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    Really the biggest obstacle is working with available products....
    Nothing says Fuck You like a shotgun.....

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    Yondering, I also like BCM uppers first the thermal fit. You mentioned bedding the upper to the lower to eliminate rattle. I’m curious as to what your thoughts are to those lowers that use one of those nylon tipped set screws to remove rattle between uppers and lowers. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    The quality/value of various manufacturers is frequently subjective and debatable. And everyone has an opinion, but some opinions are worth more than others. I’m interested in getting feedback from the tribe here about the quality you have observed yourself. It’s okay to repeat the opinions of trusted friends who have hands-on experience, but please resist the urge to just repeat the rumors from some random guy on arf.com. As we head into 2022, what’s the state of quality today? I’m specifically interested in barrel quality.

    I don’t quite qualify as a “fanboy” of Aero Precision, but I do have a lot of their stuff. They seem to me to frequently offer the best value—quality kit at a very reasonable price. Their barrels are Ballistic Advantage, so you can buy those through either AP or BA.

    I have been impressed by the quality of Daniel Defense, but apparently not as impressed as the people selling it. To my eye, they offer the least value—quality kit, but at inflated prices.

    BCM seems to be on par with DD for quality, but generally costs a bit less. (But still well more than Aero.)

    I would steer anyone away fro Palmetto State Armory (at least for ARs), Anderson, and Spikes.

    These are some I wonder about:
    1) Faxon barrels. Are they any good?
    2) Precision Firearms. This is a builder rather than a manufacturer. They use Criterion, Bartlett, and Krieger barrels.
    3) Noveske. Worth it?
    4) Mos-Tek.
    5) Compass Lake.

    The context right now is me hunting for a 14.5” 6mm ARC barrel, but then I just started wondering where the quality and value really lies today.

    What are your thoughts and opinions?
    LawDog,

    1. Stay away from Faxon, they do make decent cheap barrels, but their QC and customer service leave a lot on the table. Roll of the dice as to what you'll get.
    2. Don't know anything about them, but there are several reputable builders out there that take the guesswork out of the choice.
    3. Noveske aren't what they once were. Boutique kit at very high prices is what you get. The new Geissele rifles are sub half-moa, and an excellent value for quality with superb fit 'n finish to boot. I'd put them up against any top tier AR at any price point.
    4. Mos-tek. Know nothing about them I didn't read online.
    5. Compass Lake. Pretty much same as above, but seem to make good kit.
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