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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    In Awerbuck's boots...faced with a slow debilitating end, I would have done the same.
    My father made it through both Saipan and Tarawa, as well as several decades stateside following the war.
    However, his battles with three different types of cancer was just more than that ol Devil Dog could deal with.
    If I ever find myself in a similar position, I hope I have the courage and resolve that he did. Hoo Rah Devil Dog!

    geezer john

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    We got called to a firearm suicide a couple of years ago. Nothing for us to do. But later we got the backstory from people who knew the guy, and we were all like "well, brother, if Doc had given us a prognosis like you got, we probably would have done the same thing". He wasn't a punk. He fought, long and hard, for a long time. Sometimes the smart thing to do is tap out so you don't take any more damage.

  3. #13
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    As a physician, I can tell you that there are much worse situations than death......

  4. #14
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    I was taught growing up that suicide would send one to hell. I was taught a few other things that found to be in error. Thanks to the Grace of God,I have never had to face the things these and other men and women had to face.I am NOT their judge and will make no effort towards that.

    Old training is hard to break and sometimes even question. Would some of you more biblically educated gents point me toward some scripture that I might study?

    jim
    2 Samuel 22; Psalm 139:21-22

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw76 View Post
    I was taught growing up that suicide would send one to hell. I was taught a few other things that found to be in error. Thanks to the Grace of God,I have never had to face the things these and other men and women had to face.I am NOT their judge and will make no effort towards that.

    Old training is hard to break and sometimes even question. Would some of you more biblically educated gents point me toward some scripture that I might study?

    jim
    It isn't really discussed directly in Scripture IMO. I think people like to force their theology on topics, make them fit, and declare it as truth, at least in my experience. I do know we have the opportunity to do a lot of things on this earth and get the opportunity to walk with God while doing them. Some of those things are incredibly great and others feel like walking through hell. I've learned a lot doing some of both.
    I was born for a storm, and a calm does not suit me. - Andrew Jackson

  6. #16
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    I’m going to agree with many on here and say I understand why some choose to leave this world on their own terms. We treat our pets better than than we do many with terminal illness. While I believe in fighting for your life, doing everything reasonably possible to get help, etc., some times it’s important when to know it’s your turn to leave the party.

  7. #17
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    https://youtu.be/74oqr_iH7Nw
    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw76 View Post
    I was taught growing up that suicide would send one to hell. I was taught a few other things that found to be in error. Thanks to the Grace of God,I have never had to face the things these and other men and women had to face.I am NOT their judge and will make no effort towards that.

    Old training is hard to break and sometimes even question. Would some of you more biblically educated gents point me toward some scripture that I might study?

    jim
    WHEN THE SAVED COMMIT SUICIDE:

    https://youtu.be/74oqr_iH7Nw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    We treat our pets better than than we do many with terminal illness.
    One thing that has stuck with me from my EMS days is the number of elderly people who would quite casually (and in ignorance of our equipment and our legal situation) ask for lethal injections during smalltalk on non-emergency transports to or from the hospital.


    One lady put it almost exactly like you (roughly translated from German): "They would already have had mercy on any dog, but as a human I must endure all of this".

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    Read about Samson's end. The clergy have their own agenda...all of them do.
    Gabriel Suarez

  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Read about Samson's end. The clergy have their own agenda...all of them do.
    Samson went out killing a lot of evil people. Good example to follow if choosing this course of action. Christ himself went out saving a lot of people. Good example to follow if choosing this course of action.
    I was born for a storm, and a calm does not suit me. - Andrew Jackson

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