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  1. #11
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    Jul 2012
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    For what it sounds like your use the best move would be a pontoon, it will be much easier in just about every aspect starting out than a cabin cruiser. I currently have a 21' deck boat and it's perfect for us, 2 small kids. We can fish, tow, play, camp etc with it but it will get cramped a lot faster than a pontoon, we've had 7 adults on it, you can go 8 and be annoyed all day banging into each other. Decks boats are like the SUV of the boat world they do everything decent but don't specialize in anything. Pontoon's can be had for cheap and as folks mentioned they are pretty easy to inspect. You can take it to a boat shop/bass pro/cabelas and have them give you the hours on the engine if you want, that will give you a lot of insight into its use.

    I've got friends with jet boats, sleek powerboats, cabin cruisers and my friends wife last couple years had a converted shrimp trolley that was turned into a dinner cruiser then into a house boat (al la a very large cabin cruiser). This thing was made of Mahogany, really cool, but it turned into big money pit before she moved on. Point here being different strokes for different folks, all were fun for me experience.*

    Thing to note if you are in the Arizona region, you need to be careful with anything that has been moored/stored in a quagga infested lake. Make sure you get a full look at it out of the water. Pontoons are especially susceptible to those things latching on and then get into the engines as well, mess. You can get them removed for free but it would be a concern of mine.
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  2. #12
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    I will just throw this out there. I have always owned multiple boats of all flavors. Three years ago I went from five boats to two. I kept a large pontoon boat and a pro bass fishing boat.
    If I could live life over again carrying the knowledge I have now, I would advise myself to only rent or lease the larger boats and buy a good fishing/skiing/river runner type small boat.
    People think they are throwing money away when they lease a boat. But I can tell you from experience that between owning and leasing, the leasing option will be cheaper and way less headache in the long run.
    Just my experiences...

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB82 View Post
    I will just throw this out there. I have always owned multiple boats of all flavors. Three years ago I went from five boats to two. I kept a large pontoon boat and a pro bass fishing boat.
    If I could live life over again carrying the knowledge I have now, I would advise myself to only rent or lease the larger boats and buy a good fishing/skiing/river runner type small boat.
    People think they are throwing money away when they lease a boat. But I can tell you from experience that between owning and leasing, the leasing option will be cheaper and way less headache in the long run.
    Just my experiences...
    My mother told me at 17 when I was going on a trip alone for the first time: "If it walk, flies, f&^ks or floats: rent it. Don't buy it!"

    This advice has served me well. Some buddies and I rent a big motor yacht down in Cabo and I got into a conversation with he captain. He told me guys get some money (millions) and think it is a great idea to buy a boat and rent it out to "pay for itself", but they neglect to factor in at least 10% a year for maintenance, dock fees, crews, maintenance, insurance, storms and other nagging costs of stuff that sits inn saltwater all day.

    A party boat for fresh water that you can trailer home is probably pretty safe, but like RV's (that I also rent), the question is how often it goes out versus sits there costing money and losing value.

    I feel the same about vacation homes, but I have friends who love theirs. I get to stay there for free :). The only thing better than a boat is a neighbor with a boat.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ryder View Post
    My mother told me at 17 when I was going on a trip alone for the first time: "If it walk, flies, f&^ks or floats: rent it. Don't buy it!"

    This advice has served me well. Some buddies and I rent a big motor yacht down in Cabo and I got into a conversation with he captain. He told me guys get some money (millions) and think it is a great idea to buy a boat and rent it out to "pay for itself", but they neglect to factor in at least 10% a year for maintenance, dock fees, crews, maintenance, insurance, storms and other nagging costs of stuff that sits inn saltwater all day.

    A party boat for fresh water that you can trailer home is probably pretty safe, but like RV's (that I also rent), the question is how often it goes out versus sits there costing money and losing value.

    I feel the same about vacation homes, but I have friends who love theirs. I get to stay there for free :). The only thing better than a boat is a neighbor with a boat.
    The two best days of a boat owners life are...

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by 62-10 View Post
    The two best days of a boat owners life are...
    I keep looking at RVs and trailers, mostly trailers that I can pull on roads that are minimally maintained.

    Then I do the math.

    Assuming I can get what I need for 15k, that's 100 nights in hotel or motel somewhere. That doesn't include the extra gas that pulling the thing is going to take, that doesn't include the extra insurance etc., repairs and maintenance etc.

    The counter to that is that I can take that trailer places I can't get a hotel room.

    The counter to *that* is "how often will I do that".

    Two of my neighbors have camping trailers. Both of them use it 2-3 times a year TOPS.


    I would do the same thing for a boat. How often am I going to do that, and how much would it cost me to rent one.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by 62-10 View Post
    The two best days of a boat owners life are...
    More truth than poetry.
    Warrior for the working day.

    Es una cosa muy seria. --Robert Capa

    "...I rode the range in a Ford V8...Yippy Yi Yo Ki Yay." --Johnny Mercer (as modified)

    "What cannot be remedied must be endured."

    Vale et omnia quae.

    P:20

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