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  1. #11
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    I'm hoping this supply chain shit storm results in the return of more local businesses. The offshore stream lined, efficient, volume based, corporate monopoly model isn't in the best interest of Americans.
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    I have seen most calibers in stores IF you wanted to pay the price. I have not seen 45 ACP and no one has shotgun slugs/sabot slugs which are required for hunting in this stupid state. None on line either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragsbo View Post
    I have seen most calibers in stores IF you wanted to pay the price. I have not seen 45 ACP and no one has shotgun slugs/sabot slugs which are required for hunting in this stupid state. None on line either.
    SGAmmo for both, online today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    I'm hoping this supply chain shit storm results in the return of more local businesses. The offshore stream lined, efficient, volume based, corporate monopoly model isn't in the best interest of Americans.
    If anything its going to kill them off. Where do you think they get their product from? How does it get to their stores? This supply chain problem has been going on for over a year and the media is just now picking up on it. Local businesses can't afford space on container ships and are constantly getting out bid. Only the largest companies like Walmart and Home Depot can afford to lease whole ships and cover the cost of air shipping to get around some of the problems. Even larger companies are getting outbid for ships by China trying to bring supplies in to their main land. Its a big reason why Trump was trying to get as many companies to come back to America as he could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    I'm hoping this supply chain shit storm results in the return of more local businesses. The offshore stream lined, efficient, volume based, corporate monopoly model isn't in the best interest of Americans.
    Have you looked at how much of the reloading supply chain is made off shore?

    A lot of the powder is made offshore in Australia,Israel, Czechoslovakia and other countries.

    Wolf and Fiocchi primers come from overseas.

    Even if domestic suppliers can produce it they still have to compete for limited truck space to get it to stores ca other higher profit per pound/CI.

    it is going to be a long time before normality returns if it ever does.

    A majority of the shooting community from fudds to serious is competitors got very comfortable with JIT delivery and “always being able to get product.

    Thise who did not plan for the future are now suffering from lack of components and ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkface View Post
    If anything its going to kill them off. Where do you think they get their product from? How does it get to their stores? This supply chain problem has been going on for over a year and the media is just now picking up on it. Local businesses can't afford space on container ships and are constantly getting out bid. Only the largest companies like Walmart and Home Depot can afford to lease whole ships and cover the cost of air shipping to get around some of the problems. Even larger companies are getting outbid for ships by China trying to bring supplies in to their main land. Its a big reason why Trump was trying to get as many companies to come back to America as he could.
    Yeah I agree with this. Its actually really bad for the "small guys" when it comes to supply shipments for reasons stated right now.
    The plandemic has been the single biggest wealth transfer that I've seen. People are just too stupid to realize it.. None of this is good news for local places.. Its gonna get worse before it gets better just IMHO..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad newton View Post
    Jg has 223, I know guys don’t like them but they always seem to have shit.... I remember how much 5.45 they used to have... The Russians have to be pissed they are missing out on all these “shortages”....
    any business that requires i hand them my license so they can take down info for buying anything other than guns in their store doesn't get my business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    SGAmmo for both, online today.

    They do not have sabot slugs either
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    Well, two outta three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragsbo View Post
    They do not have sabot slugs either
    Try ammoseek at the link below. It is for slugs but does include some sort of sabots. You be judge if this will help you.

    https://ammoseek.com/ammo/12-gauge?ss=slug
    There were three hits on the item below.

    Sterling Big Game 12 Gauge 2.75" 1-1/16 oz Saboted Double Slug (Case) $234.50 $1.17 / rd

    • Just in Case Ammo

    Hope it helps and good luck with your hunting this year.

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