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    On or about 10.13.21, Danish citizen in Kongsberg Norway killed five people with a bow and arrows, about half an hour after being contacted by the gunless Kongberg cops and evading them.

    Here's a surprise: he's a convert to Islam.

    Here's another: he's still alive.

    The irony of this occurring in a town that is home to various arms manufacturing concerns is not lost on me.

    As a person with Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and German ancestry I am disgusted.

    1. Norwegians are sheeple.
    2. Norwegian cops are incapable of protecting their citizenry. And they are sheeple.
    3. Expect Norway to outlaw bows, arrows and Danish citizens. As for Islamic terrorists--nothing to see here, move along.
    4. Norwegians are apparently unable to understand the defensive/offensive use of common everyday items like, say, motor vehicles. See #1, above.

    Not gonna post a link. Have fun with this one.
    Last edited by Papa; 10-15-2021 at 09:13 AM.
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    Yesterday morning the tv at work was on cbs and they commie news hosts were going on about how this guy was a right wing extremist and other bs. They made a point to say the cops didn't normally carry guns but were ordered too for some amount of time. I wasnt surprised today to read the guy was an islam convert.
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    “We have previously been in contact with him regarding worries about radicalization,” Ole Bredrup Saeverud, the regional police chief, said at a news conference before the suspect was named.

    Jonas Gahr Store, the Labour Party leader who was installed as prime minister, said at the ceremony that “what has happened in Kongsberg is terrible.”

    He promised a full investigation.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/14/w...ow-attack.html

    Well, it sounds like they had already tried to "investigate" him. For what good that did.

    Bitching: This sort of nonsense is precisely why we have investigative agencies (police, adult protective services, etc.) and court processes by which we compel nuts to get evaluated and treated. Perhaps this guy evidenced nuttiness sufficient to meet that threshold, perhaps not. We don't know the answer to that, at least not yet. However, speaking generally, our unwillingness as a society to impose these tools on people who are clearly operating in a parallel universe is substantially to blame for these events. Not entirely to blame, of course, as individuals still have autonomy, free will, and such. But if you saw a car spitting flame out of the engine compartment, would you seriously say that there was no need to call the FD because the flames hadn't engulfed the passenger compartment yet?

    Instead, the good people, those who were just minding their own business and not doing anyone any harm, they are the ones who pay a price for this. Some died. That is not OK. I am fine with people being sheep if they want to or need to. For many, that is really all that can be expected of them, particularly if they are young, or elderly, or just cowardly. I can live with that reality and the fact that this is why we band together as a society, to look out for each other and to protect our collective selves from threats to our collective and individual well-being. I also accept that some of us will have to shoulder more of the burden of looking out for our collective well-being, as has always been the case.

    Returning to the present issue, here's the thing: to have already had this son of a bitch on your radar as a nutter, and to then go on to be practically unprepared to deal with nutters already known to exist as well as those we haven't detected yet (note, one of the wounded was unarmed off-duty LE who ended up with an arrow in the back), is willful blindness of the worst sort. Disgusting and wrong, on so many levels.

    Solution: As we have discussed here time and again, each of us is ultimately responsible for dealing with the things which go on within our orbit. Outsourcing this responsibility, this duty you owe to yourself and your tribe, to police or the mental health services (where such services even exist at a meaningful level) doesn't work. Because it simply cannot. Sure those can be part of the mix, but they can't be the only tools you rely on.

    From a policy/legislative perspective, instead of all this focus on red flag legislation - taking guns/weapons from nutters - why can't we just focus on taking nutters away from society? This seems the better choice on so many levels. Some of the nutters might get help and not be nutters anymore. Others will be placed somewhere (institutionalized) where they cannot harm others and, more likely than not, will actually be less harm to themselves than would otherwise be the case. Apart from the costs associated with this, I fail to see the downside of this course.


    EDIT: It just keeps getting better. More from NYTimes:

    Mr. Brathen was a convert to Islam but police have not yet offered a motive for the attack. They are also examining past incidents in which Mr. Brathen exhibited violent tendencies.

    Last year, the suspect was given a six-month restraining order at the request of his parents. According to court records, his parents called the police after Mr. Brathen refused to leave their house, threatened to kill his father and left a Colt revolver on their sofa. Mr. Brathen was previously convicted of theft and drug possession.

    “We are all shocked by what happened,” Kongsberg’s mayor, Anne Sand, said in a Friday news conference. “It is a tragic event, and we as a society will have to carry it with us for many years”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/w...terrorism.html
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    "Right wing" and "left wing" have become useless terms. While I perceive more common abuse of the first, I do occasionally see abuse of the second, as well. The terms have become so loaded that they are virtually derogatory. And it is perverse to call socialists "left," and national socialists "right." The misapplication of these terms has become so pervasive that I now have to focus my mind in order to restrain a reflexive slap instinct when I hear the words used.

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    ok, few things i picked up from various articles, he's muslim but they're leaning on mental health as a motive. he is to remain in a high security mental facility until it can be determined that he was in control, yet he doesn't dispute any of his actions or what happened. the police chief stated that the attack appears to be an act of terrorism, but wont submit to jihad as the motive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    "Right wing" and "left wing" have become useless terms. While I perceive more common abuse of the first, I do occasionally see abuse of the second, as well. The terms have become so loaded that they are virtually derogatory. And it is perverse to call socialists "left," and national socialists "right." The misapplication of these terms has become so pervasive that I now have to focus my mind in order to restrain a reflexive slap instinct when I hear the words used.

    We have fallen to such a low condition that the descendants of Vikings not only fail to defend themselves, but go out of the way to apologize to their Mohammedan attackers.
    Other misused terms are fascists and communists, but their adherents do have somethings in common. They want everyone to be sheeple or else. They also take guns from the people. In Nazi Germany big money was behind the Nazis and I see the same here in this country for the democrats. By the way Nazi germany did have socialized medicine from a previous regime, but they were ok with that too. After all it was national socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShopMonkey View Post
    ok, few things i picked up from various articles, he's muslim but they're leaning on mental health as a motive. he is to remain in a high security mental facility until it can be determined that he was in control, yet he doesn't dispute any of his actions or what happened. the police chief stated that the attack appears to be an act of terrorism, but wont submit to jihad as the motive.
    The Scandinavian mindset is that all violent crime is due to mental illness, because in their feeble minds, you are de facto crazy to want to hurt someone. Sheep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kabar View Post
    ...you are de facto crazy to want to hurt someone...
    Still crazy after all these years.
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    he's muslim but they're leaning on mental health as a motive.

    Of course they are. It's an easy cop-out when you are so woke you can't tell the truth and point a finger for fear of offending someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.D. View Post
    he's muslim but they're leaning on mental health as a motive.

    Of course they are. It's an easy cop-out when you are so woke you can't tell the truth and point a finger for fear of offending someone.
    Those spineless whimps deserve to be conquered by the muslim hordes they have imported. Same muslim hordes that are raping their women and children. I am disgusted by such lowly, no-balls swine.
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