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    Quote Originally Posted by barnetmill View Post
    What apple should have done is offer to decrypt that phone at apple under conditions where the data would standup in court. That way the FBI gets the data, but not a back door into the private files of other phones.
    It is not that easy. It is my understanding that Apple does not currently have such capability. They have intentionally decided not to develop such capability. A backdoor for such devices would be introduced at the time the Operating System software is developed. It is not something that can easily be added retroactively. They would have to develop the backdoor and then add it to future versions of their Operating System. Then data security would be permanently compromised on all future devices.

    Many peopale value their privacy. Government officials are not always Lilly white pure. Would you want China, Cuba, Russia, Venezuela or Saudi Arabia to have unlimited access to your data? If Apple were to develop a backdoor for the FBI, other governments will demand such access as well. The fact that someone would want airtight data security does not make them a terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayMich View Post
    It is not that easy. It is my understanding that Apple does not currently have such capability. They have intentionally decided not to develop such capability. A backdoor for such devices would be introduced at the time the Operating System software is developed. It is not something that can easily be added retroactively. They would have to develop the backdoor and then add it to future versions of their Operating System. Then data security would be permanently compromised on all future devices.

    Many peopale value their privacy. Government officials are not always Lilly white pure. Would you want China, Cuba, Russia, Venezuela or Saudi Arabia to have unlimited access to your data? If Apple were to develop a backdoor for the FBI, other governments will demand such access as well. The fact that someone would want airtight data security does not make them a terrorist.

    Thanks, always good to have the relevant facts.
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    For Apple to build such a backdoor, they would have to:

    - Take the phone in question, put it on a data connection, either a WiFi network name (SSID) that it already trusts or stand up a fake cell tower (federal felony to do this, so they'd need specific federal top cover).
    - Develop an iOS "update" that contains the backdoor functionality
    - Digitally sign the update with their private key (which is currently used for all iOS updates and trusted by all iOS devices)
    - Publish the update only on the special wifi/cellular data connection so that only this one particular phone gets it and not any other customers

    By doing this, they create a precedent where FBI and local LE can try to strong arm Apple for someone else. First they come for the terrorists. Next they come for the conservatives, etc.

    Apple's business model is to be what Google (Android) is not: privacy conscious. Nobody truly privacy conscious and tech savvy will use Android products if they understand how Google data mines everything in that OS, right down to a constant location beacon (even if you disable GPS location for apps) being sent out to Google. "What happens on iOS stays on iOS" is their marketing angle. So for the feds to push Apple to deliver a backdoor is equivalent to the federal government interfering with a company's business model. It's wrong (and anti-liberty, non-constitutional, etc.).

    Fellas, you don't want such a backdoor to exist.

    And frankly, in today's day in age, odds are high that a terrorist will have screwed something else up while trying to achieve their OPSEC and there will be other angles for LE to get that data without going down the privacy and anti-capitalism rabbit holes.
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