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    Default Attempted shooting at White Settlement Texas Church

    Appears church security took him out

    https://breaking911.com/breaking-sho...ties-reported/

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    Reports now saying 2 dead (1 is the shooter) and one in critical condition
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    Former FBI agent thats was on the security team he chose the perfect position

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    From watching the video a couple of times, I couldn’t believe that the first guy who was shot was drawing on someone who was near, in view, and had a gun in their hands pointed in his general direction. Good shot by the security team.

    The other thing I noticed was the number of people with guns drawn at the end of the clip. That is a well prepared congregation.

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    Looks like there were two openly unformed carrying personnel. Someone with what appears to be a shoulder weapon is firing at the front of the church towards one uniform, possible hitting him. The uniform at the back is aiming his gun at the shoulder arm carrying person.
    Some of the security should be plainclothes.

    I also see what could be a third uniformed security person sitting on the side.
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    Video of the incident

    https://streamable.com/m8sly

    looks like the shooter was sitting in a pew got up talked to someone and pulled out a mossberg shockwave

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    There's so many learning points from this video. I'll start with the first one: don't use proactive tactics in a reactive gunfight. That's why the first guy got hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Tull View Post
    There's so many learning points from this video.
    Indeed there are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkface View Post
    Indeed there are.
    First guy to get shot might as well have been screaming "I'm drawing my gun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.J. Singleton View Post
    First guy to get shot might as well have been screaming "I'm drawing my gun"

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    Exactly. Either explode off the X, or stay seated and surreptitiously draw. He did the worst of both.
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