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    Gabriel Suarez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    Lasers work well for entries with the ballistic shield, assuming minimal dust or smoke.
    Ya, forgot about that. My half homie is more like a full homie due to all the shield work, it's just natural now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Nichols View Post
    Ya, forgot about that. My half homie is more like a full homie due to all the shield work, it's just natural now.
    I should have signed up for shield duty.... then my left forearm would be as large as my right after a deployment ;)

    Seriously though, while we have shields, I have noticed less tendency to field them (for my agency) on operations as we have taken a speed or protection approach. Our sister unit in the neighboring agency still fields them plus probably 20+ lbs more other kit than we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coastalcop View Post
    I should have signed up for shield duty.... then my left forearm would be as large as my right after a deployment ;)

    Seriously though, while we have shields, I have noticed less tendency to field them (for my agency) on operations as we have taken a speed or protection approach. Our sister unit in the neighboring agency still fields them plus probably 20+ lbs more other kit than we do.
    I only used them on approach and initial entry on a lower level or for stairs going up. other than that we spread out too much (by 2s) and too fast for them to be effective for anything else.
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    We tend to bring them but not use them. We don't train sufficiently with them, and it's not like riding a bike. The easy button is to rely on speed, and excuses are manifold.
    And then there's the issue of actual effectiveness.

    But if you're rolling with the shield, have a laser.
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    What are you using on full size glocks?

    Crimson Trace only lists the LG 436 for 19's & smaller. They said they hadn't "product tested" it on the 17 or 34, which seems odd.

    https://www.crimsontrace.com/01-2340

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