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    Default FORGOTTEN SKILLSETS: SKIPPING BUCKSHOT OFF VERTICAL SURFACES

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    Before I build up a faux wall from 2X4s, sheetrock, mud and paint, anyone tried this on an interior wall? I'm curious as to how various sizes of shot will penetrate, skip and deflect.
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    We had an old reel to reel training movie about this at work years ago! Good stuff!
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    The harder the wall the closer the effect to the steel. Standard indoor drywall will give the same effects just less dramatic as the softness of the wall will reduce the momentum and absorb some of the pellets. They won;t penetrate on the angle, they will skip. Think of skipping a rock on sand or on asphalt. Same thing with horizontal skipping...which we also did. Skipping buck on a lawn, or on sand, will work...but not as well as on concrete or asphalt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    The harder the wall the closer the effect to the steel. Standard indoor drywall will give the same effects just less dramatic as the softness of the wall will reduce the momentum and absorb some of the pellets. They won;t penetrate on the angle, they will skip. Think of skipping a rock on sand or on asphalt. Same thing with horizontal skipping...which we also did. Skipping buck on a lawn, or on sand, will work...but not as well as on concrete or asphalt.
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    One can also skip rifle and handgun bullets off of hard surfaces. I have never seen anyone do it, but it is an option.
    For the shotgun there were at one time plastic pellets that I read were intended for skipping for crowd control. Get them in the shins, but that was a long time ago.
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    We did that as well. With a pistol or a rifle, you get one per trigger press. With a shotgun, you get between 9 and 34 "bullets" en masse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnetmill View Post
    One can also skip rifle and handgun bullets off of hard surfaces.
    Yes, but 1 projectile per trigger pull vs 9+.

    We compared skipping with 00 and #4 buck. 9 pellets is impressive, 27-34 is something else.

    The #4 penetrates less, which could be a positive or a negative depending on circumstances.
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    Main lesson is that the pellets won't all bury themselves in the sheetrock, and that if I want to penetrate a corner I need to substantially increase the angle to the wall.
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