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    I have never built my own firearm, so I have a question that might seem simple to some. I know that if you buy a full size rifle, or shotgun, you cannot put a short barrel on it, without the SBR, SBS paperwork. What if you buy an AR, receiver by itself. If you build a full size rifle, or build a pistol, can you later change your mind and go the other way? Could you switch back and forth?
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    The way the law states it once its something its always something technically. So say you make a rifle with a stock and a 16 inch barrel or longer. That lower is now magically and forever a rifle. Same with a pistol lower. If you put a brace on it and a barrel less than 16 inches its now magically and for ever a pistol lower. You aren't suppose to take either of those new magical beings and change them. You aren't suppose to take the lower that had a stock on it off and put a brace on it and then put a barrel under 16 inches on it as that would then be considered a SBR.
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    Good to know. Thanks.
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    If you have stripped lower receiver, you can turn it into what you want. Pistol, rifle,or SBR (w/paperwork). Aside from the SBR, you can change it back.
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    Free legal tip: Never admit that the gun was ever something else in the past. This goes in the same file as, ‘Don’t talk to the police.’

    These days, there is an additional concern. The younger kids just can’t manage to not post photos of all of their guns on Instagram, creating a record of all past iterations of a given gun.

    Hypothetical: For some reason the police contact me while I possess an AR rifle that I built from a receiver and they ask, “Was this rifle ever previously a pistol?” As long as I (a) don’t confess that I used it with a pistol brace and a shorter barrel before reconfiguring it, and (b) didn’t create photographic evidence of my crime, what evidence could the police ever gather that would support a prosecution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightlightman View Post
    If you have stripped lower receiver, you can turn it into what you want. Pistol, rifle,or SBR (w/paperwork). Aside from the SBR, you can change it back.
    Nope. But see above.


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    Brother at the Bar Law Dog has it right

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    What Lawdog and Chiorboy said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    Nope. But see above.


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    Where can I find more info on the pistol/rifle switch issue? I know you can't undo a rifle, but I've not heard of issues with a unassigned lower. Are you saying that one could potentially get into trouble by saying that a once pistol (but now rifle) could be construed as an illegal SBR?
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    From the ATF:

    Can I lawfully make a pistol into a rifle without registering that firearm?

    Assuming that the firearm was originally a pistol, the resulting firearm, with an attached shoulder stock, is not an NFA firearm if it has a barrel of 16 inches or more in length. Pursuant to ATF Ruling 2011-4, such rifle may later be unassembled and again configured as a pistol. Such configuration would not be considered a “weapon made from a rifle” as defined by 26 U.S.C. § 5845(a)(4).

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/can-...tering-firearm
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