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    Sounds like you need something with a longer rise. It will give you more room in the thighs. I'm not sure who makes them in jeans but you can get long rise dress pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Nichols View Post
    I've taken to buying clothing in 4 way stretch material. The fabric moves with you and is wrinkle free most of the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad the Impaler View Post
    Sounds like you need something with a longer rise. It will give you more room in the thighs. I'm not sure who makes them in jeans but you can get long rise dress pants.
    Long rise is my jam and nearly impossible to find. I have found some chinos with long rise, but wool slacks are often my favorite pants, precisely because the rise is long.

    I'm freaking long-waisted, long-legged, long everything. Looks like Duluth Trading makes some long-rise jeans, so I may need to invest. At this point, I'm about ready to sell some of my jeans on eBay and drop some cash on some Kuhl pants, though--rise is long, durability sounds good, stretch is good, and the vain young part of me thinks they look awfully good, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Nichols View Post
    I've taken to buying clothing in 4 way stretch material. The fabric moves with you and is wrinkle free most of the time
    I'm coming back around to stretch stuff, though I'm still suspicious of stretch jeans (stretch Levi's haven't held up too well, IMO). But, Kuhl's pants appear to have decent durability, due to how they formulate their fabrics. I'm used to having wrinkles around the meeting of the inseam, since pants and shorts always get scrunched up in the crotch.

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    Anybody have an opinion on Kuhl's predominantly cotton fabrics vs. their proprietary nylon/spandex/other blends fabrics, re: durability, appearance for biz. casual, and freedom of movement? I'd love to have some stuff that could cross a lot of categories, although my principal need is for more casual use at the moment.

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    FWIW, Levi Corporation is a signatory on the 130-something list of anti-gun virtue signalers. Seems they’ve become ashamed of their roots.

    More probable is that many/most in current management are the product of decades of educational propaganda and snowflake socialism.

    Sorry, worn Levis my entire life; this pisses me off!

    Now, back to your regular scheduled program...
    Ted Demosthenes
    Suarez International Staff Instructor

    2019 Classes:

    CRG-3 Advanced Gunfighting, November 2-3 2019, Mapleton, OR

    From Murphy: "Incoming has the right-of-way" (so, GOTFX!!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Demosthenes View Post
    FWIW, Levi Corporation is a signatory on the 130-something list of anti-gun virtue signalers. Seems they’ve become ashamed of their roots.

    More probable is that many/most in current management are the product of decades of educational propaganda and snowflake socialism.

    Sorry, worn Levis my entire life; this pisses me off!

    Now, back to your regular scheduled program...
    Hmf. Well, my word for Levi's: dipwads. I'm not real fond of their jeans anymore anyway. Guess I'll find something else to buy.

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    Duluth DuluthFlex Ballroom jeans are my casual and everyday pants. Durable, doesn’t restrict my movement, and the pockets are nice and deep. Well worth the price. I also use their Flex Firehose pants for work. Everything I said about the Ballroom jeans applies to them as well, and they have a useful little inside pocket on the left side that’s the perfect size to holster a G26 with an NPE2 on it. Makes the entire pistol sit below the waistband. Look up the video of Teddy Medina showing his “Sparrow” draw, and you get the idea how that works.

    I took a chance on some 5.11 Defender Flex jeans. IMO, false advertising would apply to these pants. They advertise them as “flexible,” but I couldn’t even drop into a half-squat, or raise my leg to parallel. Made any sort of martial or athletic movement impossible. All the pockets were tiny (could not fit my normal EDC loadout in them, which is a problem I’ve never run into with ANY other pants, and I’ve tried most of them), and I’m pretty sure they were designed for and by literal skinny-jeans wearing metrosexuals.
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    I bought Levi's products for nearly 40 years but once they took a corporate position in favor of gun control, that was the end of that.

    Duluth Trading is a local vendor for me and so is Viktos. I like Duluth Trading products generally.

    I need a short rise even though I'm 6 ft 4. I have considered having some of my pants tailored to better fit me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MesserMan View Post
    Duluth DuluthFlex Ballroom jeans are my casual and everyday pants. Durable, doesn’t restrict my movement, and the pockets are nice and deep. Well worth the price. I also use their Flex Firehose pants for work. Everything I said about the Ballroom jeans applies to them as well, and they have a useful little inside pocket on the left side that’s the perfect size to holster a G26 with an NPE2 on it. Makes the entire pistol sit below the waistband. Look up the video of Teddy Medina showing his “Sparrow” draw, and you get the idea how that works.

    I took a chance on some 5.11 Defender Flex jeans. IMO, false advertising would apply to these pants. They advertise them as “flexible,” but I couldn’t even drop into a half-squat, or raise my leg to parallel. Made any sort of martial or athletic movement impossible. All the pockets were tiny (could not fit my normal EDC loadout in them, which is a problem I’ve never run into with ANY other pants, and I’ve tried most of them), and I’m pretty sure they were designed for and by literal skinny-jeans wearing metrosexuals.
    Seen Duluth's stuff and plan to go try some, now that they have opened a store location in my neck of the woods. Glad you mentioned your experience w/ the 5.11 jeans--I had considered letting go of my prejudice toward 5.11 pants as the usual garb of "urban operators" and trying some of their stuff, but given that I am not a skinny-jean wearing metrosexual, I will not bother.

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