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  1. #1
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    Smile What is the necessary...

    What is the necessary magnification to see mirage clearly? Please I know it depends in a series of factors. I just want a rough idea.
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    Not sure what you are asking. Mirage is seen with the bare eye. Perhaps rephrase your question.

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    Mark: Congratulations if you can see the mirage at 500 yards with your bare eyes...probably I am getting old but I can't!!!
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    Are you sure you are asking about mirage or about distortion from heat? I've never shot past a thousand yards in the Florida heat and humidity. Noticing that after six hours on a Sunday afternoon there are no other responses perhaps you need to ask on a different forum more about rifles or elaborate more. I would like to learn more about the factors you reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BERETTATIGER View Post
    Mark: Congratulations if you can see the mirage at 500 yards with your bare eyes...probably I am getting old but I can't!!!
    Maybe you're talking about something different than mirage? Mirage is plainly visible with the naked eye on hot days, even at very long distances. Look down a straight paved road on a hot day, that shimmery reflection on the road in the distance is mirage; you don't need magnification to see that. You must be asking about something else?

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    What type of mirage are you asking about? Do you want to see it to see what the wind is doing or how to account for target shift due to mirage?
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    mirage and heat distortion can be visible at any range from any magnification. the only requirement to see one is that you have at least one working eye. As to 500yds, you failed to specify range in your original post, regardless, heat distortion can be viewed at under 50yds under the right conditions. heel you can see distortion off the hood of your car while sitting in it if its hot enough out. under magnification, it only takes high heat areas between you and your focal point, or directly behind the focal point to distort the image you see, simple as that

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    I admit I never spent much time shooting at distances where mirage (or the visual distortion caused by heat rising from the ground) played any factor in my shooting. In urban settings, a 100 yard shot was a very long shot. Later in life in the AZ back country we learned to shoot out to 100o yards, and while its nice to be able to do that, reality has most shots in the field taken out to about 300 or 400. And usually from some sort of "non-prone" position.

    Glass...I know this is like discussing women. Some guys like muscular dark haired crossfit girls...other like full bodied viking lasses. Every non-red dot optic on my rifles is a Leupold scope. Yes...I know...gotta have something to complain about when the companies Remington, SIG, or Glock afre mentioned. Get whatever blows your hair back..all of mine are Leupold.

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    Not sure what that has to do specifically with "mirage" but I can see it fine with all the Leupold glass, and with a Kestrel, a scan of the vegetation along the line of fire, and some educated guessing, I can hold sufficiently into the wind to still hit.
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    Well, Gabe explained it in his first line, MIRAGE is the visual distortion caused by heat rising from the ground. In sniping is used to try to GUESS what the wind is doing at different distances. If you are shooting at 1000 yards you should check mirage at least in two different places between you and the target. I am probably getting old but I cannot see what the mirage is doing at 700 yards. After all the saying: Elevation is science, Windage is voodoo is at the end correct.
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    Your talking about reading mirage. Anywhere from 20x up will work, you need less power when the mirage is really bad, so a variable spotting scope is a good idea.

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