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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkface View Post
    There is a world of difference between a black bear and a grizzly... Even a difference between a southern black bear and a northern black bear.
    What is the difference between southern black bears and northern black bears?

  2. #32
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    A couple of hundred pounds give or take.
    I carry two kinds of trauma kits. One for fixing it and one for causing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasher View Post
    If having to drag an SKS around in the woods is my best option then I’d rather just wave my dick at it.

    I can think of literally a hundred hundred options and none of them are an SKS.

    I can tell you one one heck of an option for Alaskan bears.

    A Stainless Steel 470 Nitro Express double rifle with synthetic furniture. Yes they exist. But I Searxh made 12 of them and says he will never ever make another because the stainless steel is too hard to work with. my hunting partner owns one.

    My personal choices are:

    Black Bear country either a Ruger Bisley in 45 Colt with hot hand loads or a S&W 329PD with hot hand loads. Let’s be honest black bears aren’t that hard to kill and they mostly run away anyway. I have often hikedin black bear country with no gun and never seen a bear.


    Big bear country

    45 Colt Bisley and

    Marlin Guide fun I. 45/70 with hot hand loads
    Tac 14 and Brenneke slugs
    one of my African dangerous game rifles with 375 H&H being the low end.
    You are going to limit yourself to two powerful shots by lugging a
    A Stainless Steel 470 Nitro Express double rifle with synthetic furniture.
    You must very sure of your marksmanship.
    I want a semiauto that holds at least 10 rounds, of moderate recoil, and I want a gun that points well with open sights. Double rifles do point well and can have excellent sights. Normally they are used with back up.

    This is no harder to lug about than many of your other choices. I thought they were junk and until I purchased one and actually fired it.
    16 inch barrel SKS.
    wm_13107685 SKS 16 inch.jpg
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    Yes I am.
    I carry two kinds of trauma kits. One for fixing it and one for causing it.

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    And thank you for mis-characterizing a cherry picked example.

    Butch designed those guns as back up rifles for dangerous game guides in Alaska fr wet nasty conditions.

    But hey hey if you want to bet your life on an SKS you do you.

    Me I will use the list I gave above.
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    Default SHOTGUN VERSUS BEARS - II

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkface View Post
    Thatís a nice example. Stood his ground & placed his shots well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paknheat View Post
    That’s a nice example. Stood his ground & placed his shots well.


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    This is hunting. Camera was going and likely other backup was there. This was not a surprise attack and not a rapid reactive response.
    Good shooting by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasher View Post
    A couple of hundred pounds give or take.
    I take it northern black bears are larger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisp View Post
    I take it northern black bears are larger.
    Yep. Things tend to get bigger as you go north or into the mountains.
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