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    I tend to look at a hand shake as the single best opening to a thing called “sankyo”, which is one of those things that is better to give than receive. For this very un-Christian reason I kinda enjoy it when strangers approach to shake my hand.

    The entries are kinda silly but this video illustrates sankyo. It works great from a handshake and just once in my life I would love to have a good reason to do it for real.

    I think I will add that to my prayers just to keep this post relevant to the thread.

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    Shaking hands to me means I showing you my weapon hand has nothing in it. Dude walking up to me smiling in whole foods does not get that. He gets a fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Yamamoto View Post
    For this very un-Christian reason
    Oh...I dunno...OUR type of Christian is not like those folks who hate such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Oh...I dunno...OUR type of Christian is not like those folks who hate such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Yeah...I don't really see them as that. People have to earn me calling them brother and sister. Claiming the same faith is insufficient for me.

    And while I understand the sentiment, the whole "corrupted by the world" seems weird to me. If you don't want to drink, whore, and use dope, just don't do it. Pretending such things don't exist, or wanting to eradicate them, lead to silly laws like Prohibition and dress codes at the beach.

    Just a short step to Burkhas from there.
    That's a great point.
    Be alert, stand firm in the faith, act like a man, be strong. Your every action must be done with love.

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    Kinda cool being left handed.
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    Maybe he is a new Christian and feels that he must do what Christ commands Christians do, that being witnessing but maybe he just isn't comfortable yet

    Maybe he is an old Christian and knows that his witnessing will most likely fall on deaf ears, "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."~Matthew 7-14 KJV but still does what Christ commands that Christians do

    Or maybe he knows that he will be hated for telling people about Jesus but still goes out and witnesses regardless,
    "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." ~ Matthew 10:22 KJV



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    My personal experience has been that it -being a "weird Christian" depends upon the church they go to and it's particular teachings (pastor's philosophy) included) or branch of Christianity to which they belong. An example is the people from Westboro Baptist Church. How far can they be from understanding true Christian belief?

    We had one woman , and evangelical Pentecostal, in one of the locations I worked ack in the mid-1980s who challenged me, a Catholic, because I was close friends with our one Japanese-American who was Buddhist. She apparently had an issue with Christians associating with non-Christians.

    As for the handshake issue, the only time I shake hands with anyone, is; a, they are a friend or close associate; or b, it is in a professional or business meeting. That's it.




    I will add that as a Catholic, I understand my Church's doctrine regarding opposing evil - including personal attacks. Basically, in one sentence -- love your fellow man as a child of God, and any consequence of any evil he may attempt to perpetrate against you is the result of his actions -- not yours (even if you shoot him and he dies.) Pretty simple, pretty straight forward -- do what you need to do when you need to do it. Touchy-feely it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricco View Post
    Maybe he is a new Christian and feels that he must do what Christ commands Christians do, that being witnessing but maybe he just isn't comfortable yet

    Maybe he is an old Christian and knows that his witnessing will most likely fall on deaf ears, "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."~Matthew 7-14 KJV but still does what Christ commands that Christians do

    Or maybe he knows that he will be hated for telling people about Jesus but still goes out and witnesses regardless,
    "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." ~ Matthew 10:22 KJV


    Or maybe he is a weird motherf*cker who doesn't know how to interact with real people in the real f*cking world. Read the book plenty and it doesn't say to be a weird creeper with a smile running around public places interrupting people's day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.D. View Post
    My personal experience has been that it -being a "weird Christian" depends upon the church they go to and it's particular teachings (pastor's philosophy) included) or branch of Christianity to which they belong. An example is the people from Westboro Baptist Church. How far can they be from understanding true Christian belief?

    Yes...I had forgotten about some of the strange sects that exist. There is one locally (in Prescott of all places) that can only be described as Socialist Christianity. Take a wild guess at what their doctrine might be. They may claim to be whatever they are, but personally I want nothing to do with any of them.

    We had one woman , and evangelical Pentecostal, in one of the locations I worked ack in the mid-1980s who challenged me, a Catholic, because I was close friends with our one Japanese-American who was Buddhist. She apparently had an issue with Christians associating with non-Christians.

    I recall we had a few people here that asked me to ban Mormons! I told them that if I limited my friendships and my business to only evangelical christians I would have to take a second job at starbucks just to pay the bills. When I refused they left the tribe. I have come to realize in the last five years or so that there are extremists in every group. The same mentality that tears down historic monuments and stones women in feminine attire exists in the west. I won't call the Christians, but if some of these were given the power they would ban alcohol, bikinis, and R rated movies.

    As for the handshake issue, the only time I shake hands with anyone, is; a, they are a friend or close associate; or b, it is in a professional or business meeting. That's it.

    Yup...agreed. As I watched him it was almost an ingrained response that as he extended his hand the others extended theirs.

    I will add that as a Catholic, I understand my Church's doctrine regarding opposing evil - including personal attacks. Basically, in one sentence -- love your fellow man as a child of God, and any consequence of any evil he may attempt to perpetrate against you is the result of his actions -- not yours (even if you shoot him and he dies.) Pretty simple, pretty straight forward -- do what you need to do when you need to do it. Touchy-feely it is not.
    Gabriel Suarez

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