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    Default HERE IS AN INTERESTING ONE - Viagra Is Great for Bodybuilders

    The article on T-Nation mentions Viagra but its cousin Cialis also bears note. This cam across my desk from a student who is a doctor. He likes Cialis for a number of reasons other than the obvious. He notes cardio-protective qualities, normalization of blood pressure, as well as having estrogen suppressing properties. Hmm. This is something that falls, as we say, "beyond the pale" but if it works as noted, who gives a crap. More study is in order, and I would be intersted to hear from any medical personnel who have knowledge of this.

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    "A 2005 study found that 10 mg. and 20 mg. doses of Cialis, taken an average of 10 times a month, significantly reduced estradiol levels, but only in men who didn't have too much body fat (those with a BMI of less than 27) (1). Men with more body fat have higher levels of aromatase and convert testosterone to estradiol with impunity, regardless of how much Cialis they pop."

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    I think maintaining leanness is key to optimal natural test production/estrogen suppression in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinboysdad View Post
    I think maintaining leanness is key to optimal natural test production/estrogen suppression in general.
    Yes...BUT, as we have stated in the past, most guys once they get into their forties will need much more than "good life habits" and "diet" to maintain optimal levels of testosterone into their later years. And since few here are interested in cultivating "grandpa bodies" we discuss stuff like this rather than just wave it of as something for someone else.
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    Saw a doctor yesterday for a check up and requested my T and associated stuff to be tested. The lady was taken aback and almost didn't want too but she added it to the blood work while moaning about how it isn't covered or something and I told her I didn't care. I won't be seeing her again lol. I turn 40 in a couple weeks and want to know where I am at.
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    • "Viagra has been shown to treat abnormally high blood pressure in the pulmonary arteries (known as pulmonary hypertension)."


    I haven't seen any studies on this, but I would expect that if pressures in the pulmonary vasculature in lowered, it would decrease the work load on the right side of the heart and improve oxygenation. Both would be beneficial in terms of exercise tolerance. Improved blood flow in the skeletal muscles from its smooth muscle relaxing effect might also be beneficial.

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    Love T Nation. I have used Viagra mainly and Cialis to a lesser extent for physical training ( and of course for their primary use!) for a number of years. My adipose mass is about 14 percent. I'm 6 feet in height and weigh 198 lbs. And i have flat abdomen. Oh, and I am 71 years young. I have benefited in a number of ways from using these genuine miracle meds! Anyway I think Cialis is the way to go as the half life is 3-4 times as long as Viagra. That means prolonged benefits for post workout recovery. Time to talk to my doc about taking Cialis daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Yes...BUT, as we have stated in the past, most guys once they get into their forties will need much more than "good life habits" and "diet" to maintain optimal levels of testosterone into their later years. And since few here are interested in cultivating "grandpa bodies" we discuss stuff like this rather than just wave it of as something for someone else.
    Sorry I answered vaguely, and I agree with you. I was pointing out that if you are a fat ass, the study said Cialis doesn’t help anyway. You have to be leaned out for the benefits. Just was stating you have to put the work in before the Magic may happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinboysdad View Post
    Sorry I answered vaguely, and I agree with you. I was pointing out that if you are a fat ass, the study said Cialis doesn’t help anyway. You have to be leaned out for the benefits. Just was stating you have to put the work in before the Magic may happen
    That is true. Nothing is free. But we live in an age that if you put in the work, there are things that can supercharge the results.
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    Default HERE IS AN INTERESTING ONE - Viagra Is Great for Bodybuilders

    High altitude mountain climbers routinely carry Viagra to address altitude sickness (pulmonary edema).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    High altitude mountain climbers routinely carry Viagra to address altitude sickness (pulmonary edema).
    I had no idea of that. Wow.
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