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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalina View Post
    Mention somewhere that the Judeo Christian God commands one to not murder which is different from killing.

    6. You shall not murder. Exodus 20:13
    I was 14 when a Jewish school buddy explained to me the difference between the 10 commandments in his faith vs. what we where taught in churches/sunday schools of the Christian faiths. That one stuck with me since then. I've always found it amazing that so many Christians don't understand the original meaning/intent and believe killing in self defense/defense of others is a sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1A's r Best View Post
    I was 14 when a Jewish school buddy explained to me the difference between the 10 commandments in his faith vs. what we where taught in churches/sunday schools of the Christian faiths. That one stuck with me since then. I've always found it amazing that so many Christians don't understand the original meaning/intent and believe killing in self defense/defense of others is a sin.
    Part of that has been the churches of old working in harmony with the governments of Europe to try to pacify the people so the government would retain an "accepted" monopoly on violence. If people think ANY killing is a sin they are less likely to try to overthrow a monarchy or a government.....
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    Very excited for the book.

    Equally excited for the class this November!
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    Very cool....tagging for interest.

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    My credit card is ready.....Looking forward to adding it to my library.

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    Since I will unlikely be able to attend the class, I would love to buy at least a couple copies. Great idea Mr. Suarez.

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    May I please order 2

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    I 'll buy it?
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    In print by Thanksgiving? Will be a good Christmas present.
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    Default Killing Within the Law

    After experiencing the Winning the Aftermath: Homicide Investigation Management class I have found that I am rather hyper aware of people's pre-conceived ideas of what will happen if they are in a self-defense shooting. I guess it is like when you buy a new car and suddenly you see that same model car everywhere.

    Well, I ran a handgunning class over the weekend and during lunch the topic of dealing with a self-defense shooting come up and it seemed that most people believed that if they had to use their firearm in self-defense, they would be going to court. Based upon the statements made I would say that easily 85% of the people there held that same belief.

    One of my attendees was legally trained; graduated Law school but not member of the BAR. His point of view is through “legal” glasses, and he made the statement that, “if you use your gun, you will be prosecuted.” What do you expect; prior training gets pretty ingrained.

    I started asking questions of the group like, “what if the bad guy was an active shooter and he had just shot 15 people before you took him out, would you be prosecuted then?” All said no, probably not.

    “What if the guy had a shirt on that said Kill All Martians and you shot him as he was walking into a Martian Sunday school building with an AK and a backpack full of magazines, would you be prosecuted then?” Again, they said no, probably not.

    I then asked them what the difference was in the hypothetical self-defense shooting they had in their minds as compared to mine. For some reason everyone made pictures of the guy they shot in this fictitious scenario to somehow not be that bad of a guy. The active shooters I described, those were definitely bad guys that the world would thank you for taking them out, but the guy they shot in their minds was not at the same level.

    My point in relaying this experience is I believe part of the Killing Within the Law book should look at these common pre-conceived ideas and how they inhibit a person's effectiveness. Wining the aftermath starts way before the conflict. It starts with getting the proper mindset and painting the proper mental pictures of not only yourself, but of the evil people that want to hurt others.
    Last edited by MaddMan; 09-16-2019 at 03:39 PM.
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