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    Quote Originally Posted by IANative View Post
    masterful "command of the written and spoken English language." .
    There it is.
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    I've never done Toast Masters. When I was a kid, I participated in an Optimist's Club oratorical contest. That experience was invaluable. The skills I learned there, though, are more classic speech-making, not the conversational style that Gabe suggests and that fit better in the instructional world. When teaching, it is rarely useful to pound on the podium like Hitler at Templehof Stadium. When seeking instruction for public speaking, though, I think that the most important consideration is simply finding someone who will actually critique you. In our everybody-gets-a-trophy society, it would be easy to plug into a group that just pats you on the back to build your confidence. That's not what you need. You want someone who will actually take notes while you are speaking and analyze it at the micro level afterward. Toast Masters is a good place to start. But once you are in the group, look for that guy who will actually critique you and give you feedback.

    You can also critique yourself. When you speak, set up a camera to record it. Go back and watch yourself later. You'll observe nervous movement and distracting behavior that you never realized you were doing. You need to record actual public speaking; not just you speaking to an empty living room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawDog View Post
    You can also critique yourself. When you speak, set up a camera to record it. Go back and watch yourself later. You'll observe nervous movement and distracting behavior that you never realized you were doing. You need to record actual public speaking; not just you speaking to an empty living room.
    This.

    Filming and critiquing yourself is useful for almost any activity.

    ....ok, maybe that's not the best advice to give around Nichols. But it's still true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Yamamoto View Post
    This.

    Filming and critiquing yourself is useful for almost any activity.

    ....ok, maybe that's not the best advice to give around Nichols. But it's still true.
    do it all the time.... may or may not be found on pornhub
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.D. View Post
    Two suggestions:

    One, read more to improve your writing skills. Look for quality works from twentieth century writers. GK Chesterton is a perfect choice ( https://www.chesterton.org/discover/ ). He is called the master of paradox for his use of it. He works are prolific and diverse. Take note of how words are used to create an image or express a thought. Evelyn Waugh is another good choice.

    Two, find and join a debating society in your local area to improve you public speaking skills. Unlike simply giving a speech, debate teaches you to research a topic, develop an "argument", prepare for the opposing "argument" and then deliver and defend your "argument" in a polite, gentlemanly manner. Debating will also help improve your ability to think on your feet, and to address questions, etc. There may be a social debating club, but almost all colleges and universities have one. I'll add here that the goal of debate is to convince an audience that they should decide in favour of your side of the issue. It has rules and is not like a heated breakroom argument over whether Texas or KC BBQ is better.



    (Texas BBQ is better - just so you know)
    I generally read 50-100 pages a night as well as listen to audio books. That is one thing that was instilled in me at an early age was a love for the written word. Also way back in the annals of history, I was one of the few in my high school to both play football and participate in debate and forensics.
    I have started to record brief video emails in the two to three minute range weekly for office communication, especially when sending information to one of our satellite offices. As with anything else, repetition brings both improvement and greater confidence in one's ability. Once this next training program finishes I will be joining one of the 3 local Toastmaster clubs, mostly for the opportunity to practice as well as receive feedback. I ask for feedback at work, after each training session and get crickets.

    As with anything else there are folks who are satisfied with where they are at and those who want to get better and grow. I know there is room for growth and so will continue to stretch myself.
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    I've also been looking into Toastmasters in my area. In short, gaining skill at giving formal speeches will increase your overall verbal communication skill level. Public speaking is to conversation as pumping iron is to fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlwilliams View Post
    In short, gaining skill at giving formal speeches will increase your overall verbal communication skill level. Public speaking is to conversation as pumping iron is to fighting.
    Good analogy.
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    One thing that I have told students at instructor courses is they need to hear themselves speak. Practice their lines, so to speak. In training courses, each topic can be boxed up as a separate sound bite or presentation. The more you make the presentation, the easier it becomes. It develops a sort of comfort and dexterity with speaking in the same way a kata makes one physically dexterous.

    Today in the era of remote hands free comms, driving around while you practice speaking is easy and nobody will think you are insane. Repetition brings understanding. Understanding brings comfort, and comfort brings usability. As well, it will be easier to develop the conversational tone that is often better received than a "speech".
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