I just saw a video on FB where a guy resisted 2 cops, 3 tasers, and baton/boot strikes until the sergeant showed up and put a choke hold on the dude while the other 2 worked the arms to get cuffs on him. From a civilian standpoint I thinks this speaks to skills being better than tools in this area as the most effective thing used was a RNC, even though they had all the cool, big money toys.