Boy this talk really makes some lights go off in my head when thinking about the Shotokan dojo I spent my 20's in. It was all about the big, deep stances, but thinking back, I can't recall the Sensei ever getting down low in those exaggerated stances. The guy was middle aged with bad joints and not exactly fast, but he was basically untouchable as he had an uncanny knack for not being in the same spot you were attacking. I remember thinking many times, "How the heck did he get behind me?"