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  1. #21
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    I don’t want to give people the idea that I advocate the whole “grey man” thing. We are meant to live unapologetically and need not hide under a rock.

    But using discretion where advisable is just a smart thing to do.

    Be smart. That’s all. If in doubt, default to being quiet on these matters.
    Brent Yamamoto
    Suarez International Tier 1 Staff Instructor

    Ready, willing, able. Bring it.

    Instagram: karate_at_1200fps

    Upcoming classes:

    Advanced Close Range Gunfighting - Nov 2-3 Mapleton, OR

  2. #22
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    Thanks for the advice everyone. Seriously contemplating pocket carried revolver for the time being.
    "It's not that life is too short, it's that death is so damn long." unknown
    "People s
    hould not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" V
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    I must study politics and war, that my sons may have the liberty to study mathematics and philosophy, natural history and naval architecture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, tapestry, and porcelain." John Adams

  3. #23
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    I had a thought for a new product: Stainless steel (or titanium) drinking straws.

    No, I'm quite serious. Think of it as a hollow chopstick. With more and more hand-wringing about plastic straws, perhaps it's time to go to reusable metal straws. Complete with one end suitably beveled to easily cope with fast food drink lids.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike OTDP View Post
    I had a thought for a new product: Stainless steel (or titanium) drinking straws.

    No, I'm quite serious. Think of it as a hollow chopstick. With more and more hand-wringing about plastic straws, perhaps it's time to go to reusable metal straws. Complete with one end suitably beveled to easily cope with fast food drink lids.
    I like it.
    Brent Yamamoto
    Suarez International Tier 1 Staff Instructor

    Ready, willing, able. Bring it.

    Instagram: karate_at_1200fps

    Upcoming classes:

    Advanced Close Range Gunfighting - Nov 2-3 Mapleton, OR

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike OTDP View Post
    I had a thought for a new product: Stainless steel (or titanium) drinking straws.

    No, I'm quite serious. Think of it as a hollow chopstick. With more and more hand-wringing about plastic straws, perhaps it's time to go to reusable metal straws. Complete with one end suitably beveled to easily cope with fast food drink lids.
    My daughter has one. The problem is that too much of a bevel winds up getting beat up on the bottom of the mug. But a stock one and about 30 seconds on a coarse diamond stone would net you a nice tool.
    Similar idea: Carbon fiber pencil
    Armed Puritan

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike OTDP View Post
    I had a thought for a new product: Stainless steel (or titanium) drinking straws.
    Keep in mind that one end needs to be dull and soft. Too many of the cheap 'tactical' pens are ruined by being pointy at both ends. You only need one pointed end on a spear. The other end needs to rest delicately on your palm or thumb. The chopsticks do this nicely. It would look a bit odd on a straw, though I suppose it can be done.
    Virtute et Armis

  7. #27
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    Do yourself a favor: Figure out how to get out as well. Fire, Active shooter etc. Know where your exits are and how to get out, or above the threat.

    Also if you have a stache spot that locks: you can often hide things where people don't look. I've a drawer with ~3" of dead space above it now sporting a tiny lockbox. You cant see it unless your head's in a filing cabinet.

    AL
    GFT.

    Try to replace hardware with technique. Technique is free, lightweight, and cannot be lost.
    RGF- Greg Nichols-Milton, WI

  8. #28
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    Jun 2013
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    No weapons policies are for the sheep, not lions.

    I have to use belly band once every week or two. It works best with a gun with some kind of safety device. I use a Shield with a thumb safety. You have to train with it if you want to be fast and safe. It works well when I have to wear a tie and may have to take off the sportscoat or when I can't wear a belt.

    If you are in the part of Virginia where everyone goes shooting, then you don't have to avoid talking about firearms quite so much. It may just be a corporate CYA policy vs institutional animus towards guns. Where I live, Catalina's advice is spot on, especially if you need the job.

    You should work towards the goal of carrying AIWB. Experiment with different locations in the front and also with different shirt types and different belt positions. Button down shirts with a pattern can work well.

    We all should have a cache of dual use items within arms reach, in plain sight, whether we work in an NPE or not. Thanks to all for the reminder.

  9. #29
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    Similiar to Lawdog's ideas:

    If you have an office, bring an old hammer to hang some pictures. You can forget to take the hammer home.
    Screwdrivers, tools, and stuff that you can explain away (pocket knives to open boxes) can be explained away.

  10. #30
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    One last bit that has worked for me: The Suarez Gunfighter Holster allows you to tuck a shirt in over the holster. All that shows are the two belt clips, which most people will assume are due to your cell phone. If you want to, you can even wear a dorky cell phone holster positioned to conceal the clips.

    I have worn a G19 with an RMR positioned appendix under a tucked in dress shirt and slacks with this set-up and never received a second look. Add a sport coat or vest and you really have little to worry about, and you’ve got a real fighting pistol very well concealed. I have worn this in what I would call “social NPEs” and my biggest concern was someone trying to hug me and feeling the gun on my belt. (Actually much easier to protect against when carrying appendix than at 3 o’clock, in my opinion.)

    My experience with the Gunfighter has been amazing. I can conceal a G17 with less printing than a G19 in an Archangell, and the G19 really disappears.

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