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  1. #31
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    HST is in my 340PD, reloads are Critical Defense (wadcutters/wadcutter derivatives suck on reloads)


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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Heckathorn View Post
    HST is in my 340PD, reloads are Critical Defense (wadcutters/wadcutter derivatives suck on reloads)


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    Completely flat noses as on the wadcutter for reloads are much slower to get into chambers. Unlike the super small .32 seacamp, if your snubnose .38 has single action capacity and is a quality gun a three inch group at 25 yards is within it capability. But, most people use such guns at close range, double action and fire into the torso. Some will even fire them through a coat or trouser pocket. Hence the use of the reverse wadcutter reloads.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnetmill View Post
    Completely flat noses as on the wadcutter for reloads are much slower to get into chambers. Unlike the super small .32 seacamp, if your snubnose .38 has single action capacity and is a quality gun a three inch group at 25 yards is within it capability. But, most people use such guns at close range, double action and fire into the torso. Some will even fire them through a coat or trouser pocket. Hence the use of the reverse wadcutter reloads.
    ... Correct.


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  4. #34
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    Fairly new to the Snubby game. When I carry my 442, is is loaded with the HST 130gr +P. Reloads are Winchester PDX1 130gr +P Defenders.
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  5. #35
    I run the +p HST Micros in my 640. Not too snappy with a 22 oz snub.
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  6. #36
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    Here's some old-school / new-school show & tell:
    20190217_163618.jpg

    Top left is the ORIGINAL Scorpion Hydra-Shock 146 gr lead standard pressure 38 SPL. It was a huge step forward from the inverted HBWC. Note that wicked awesome center post. Very accurate, super expansion.

    Below left is what I consider to be the CURRENT state of the art in snub performance, the Federal 130 gr HST 38 SPL +P.

    To the right is what I carried during the interim, most recently Speer 38 SPL +P 125 gr GDHP.

    Specialty loads that I have carried - for different reasons - include the original Glaser Safety Slug BLUE 38 SPL +P, and below that, the original S&W (yes, S&W) NYCLAD 38 SPL standard pressure.

    While I consider myself adequately armed with any of them, my current choice is HST.

    Reloads are still GDHP, for reasons already stated.
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  7. #37
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    The hst’s look like some nasty motherfers.

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    Hydra Shok. Glaser. Nyclad.

    Greatest hits of the 70's.

    Now where's that 2" Combat Masterpiece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    Hydra Shok. Glaser. Nyclad.

    Greatest hits of the 70's.

    Now where's that 2" Combat Masterpiece?
    Ha! That is a classic, for sure. But what about the 2" Model 12? That's one I missed out on. We had some 2" K-frames when I was an MP Investigator back in the 1970s, but I can't remember if they were aluminum.

    FWIW, I still have a very nice Model 19 snubbie (and a few Glaser rounds) for nostalgia's sake, but at 19 ounces the Model 12 would have made a sweet carry gun back in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Zen View Post
    Ha! That is a classic, for sure. But what about the 2" Model 12? That's one I missed out on. We had some 2" K-frames when I was an MP Investigator back in the 1970s, but I can't remember if they were aluminum.

    FWIW, I still have a very nice Model 19 snubbie (and a few Glaser rounds) for nostalgia's sake, but at 19 ounces the Model 12 would have made a sweet carry gun back in the day.
    Regret that Smith never brought back the Model 12 as a +P rated retro gun.

    12a.jpg

    I have a 2" model 10 but it is a boat anchor.
    Last edited by Papa; 02-18-2019 at 06:21 PM. Reason: 'Cause I like pictures.
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