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    Default What is "Strong"?

    At what point do you consider someone strong?
    We have measurements of performance for many things but I'm not sure about usable strength.


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    Iím no one special at all but I think itís all about personal standards and goals. I set a 500lb deadlift and squat and 300lb bench as my goal about a year ago. When I hit those numbers I upped them. Iím still chasing that. I feel like everyone should AT LEAST be able to lift there own body weight in the big three movements. At least. Everyone should strive for more and always up their goals once reached. I think conditioning is very important and I consider that a strength. You can call it cardio strength lol. If youíre strong and canít run 100yds then what good is that? Being strong is awesome. Being functionally strong is better. Just my .02!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by psalms23dad View Post
    At what point do you consider someone strong?
    It's like porn. It's hard to define, but you know it when you see it. Seriously though, I don't think "strong" is an end goal. It's a never ending journey.

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    To me it means you can do what you need to do with out dying.
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    It is commonly accepted that a 1.5 times bodyweight squat and bench (or equivalent) and a 2x bodyweight deadlift is a symbol of STRONG.
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    I agree with Gabe's assessment, that is a good general rule to use, but to me there are many variables to consider.

    1) Weight lifted, using primarily Gabe's statement above.
    2) Drugs, steroids specifically. I am not at all against them, but it does skew things. I am clean, but given my age and if I could find a doctor to correctly prescribe them, I'd use them.
    3) Form, meaning half reps (I see this a LOT), cheating (bouncing and such), swinging all over the place (I see this a lot with people that think their strong).
    4) Age..Lets face it, we're not going to be was strong in our later years as we were in our 20's and 30's. A 300# bench for a 25 year old is good, but not as good as a 50 year old.

    I could go on, but I take it on a case by case basis. I see guys in the gym that can do 100lb dumbbells on seated overhead presses (getting them to their shoulders unassisted, that separates the men from the boys) but can't do anything else. The list goes on..

    Going to the gym and working as hard as you can, puts you in the top 10% alone. Strive for more, like most all here do, and you're probably in the top 5% or less.

    That's just my 2c.

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    I think it depends on what is important TO YOU. I uswd to be into strength competitions as a teenager, and I would go to them or watch them sometimes on my own time. I remember seeing a guy waddle up to the squat rack, lift over a thousand pounds down and up, three white lights, then couldnt even take off his own shoes. He literally couldnt reach his own feet.

    For me, strength has become how fast I can move up this mountain with a super heavy ruck. How can I manipulate my body to doing cool gymnastic tricks. I want to be able to do a single handed hand stand pushup, eventually.

    I gave up on barbells a while ago. Just not for me, anymore.

    Find what works for you, what you really LOVE to do, and youll get good results.

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    I dont bench but I do dips with weights and land mine presses. I use various squats and deadlift. The advantage is that I dont have to climb a mountain with a ruck but I can get a 45 minute session anytime I want.

    The question was strength so I answered that. Strength is ONE component.

    Steroids....who cares. I use supplements and supplemental T. I could not care less if that upsets anyone and find the puritan attitudes still left in the west totally ridiculous.

    On age. Yep...getting older means you need to get clever and careful, but the frail cardigan wearing dude with the grandpa ass is not the inevitable future if you put in the work in your 30s and 40s.
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    I will add that muscle mass is as important as strength alone. An 18 inch arm is better than a 15 inch arm that is marginally stronger.

    Why? Because there are lots of really fat strong guys. I have studies Ripptoe but at comparable age I will say I am likely more muscular although he is far stronger. So ratio of muscle to fat is more important than pure strength.

    Muscle mass raises your metabolic rate and as you age, the more muscle you start with the better to avoid and evade sarcopenia.

    And bodyweight exercises wont do it, nor will excessive cardio.
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    There are also skinny strong guys. Which are equally as lacking as the fat strong guys.
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