Yep, not new territory. The Win 95 might have been a John Browning design but I'm not sure. I'm not that steeped in the lore of the lever gun. I like a nice lever gun. Shot a number of whitetail with a 44 mag Ruger lever gun (also a detachable mag gun) and currently run a Marlin thuddy-thuddy in the woods but I don't know all the ins and outs of the genre. I imagine that guys who can't get what we can might use these instead as quasi "tactical" rifles but I won't even go for the which is better thing. Kind of a non issue for me