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    Quote Originally Posted by endsoftheearth View Post
    Hickock45 had a video where 220 grain hardcast by Buffalo Bore, or another similar outfit, keyholes in a Glock 10mm. Not enough spin imparted to stabilize some 220 grain, I assume.
    Those were 230 grain hard cast Double Tap 10mm, in 2010. Some other info on the web that the 200 grain Double Tap were keyholing too back then.
    Last edited by Papa; 11-17-2018 at 04:28 PM.
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    Paper plates... because ballistic gel is a repeatable medium for science nerds and youtube channels need some sorta hook.
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    All I know about paper plates is they dump food in your lap when you load 'm up.
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    One of the factors is bullet construction/design vs velocity. Some bullets will come apart and not penetrate well when driven faster than their design parameters. They shatter or fragment.

    Hard cast but not brittle lead bullets seem to penetrate well out of handguns. The same can be said about any solid metal non expanding constricted bullet.

    Only way to know is to test.

    Elmer Keith and later Ross Seyfried (1990s) did a lot of work with cast pistol bullets for penetration. A heavy cast lead bullet for caliber seemed to give good results.

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    A puppy dies evertyime a caliber comparison thread starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_k View Post
    A puppy dies evertyime a caliber comparison thread starts.
    Yeah...I know. Its like people just pop over here thinking this is just like every other f****** place on line with the same mouth breathers wanting the same cheap stuff and easy short cuts. Its actually discouraging some days to think that is the bulk of the gun community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    Those were 230 grain hard cast Double Tap 10mm, in 2010. Some other info on the web that the 200 grain Double Tap were keyholing too back then.
    Yes, thanks for setting me straight, I miss-remembered, they were 230gr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Yeah...I know. Its like people just pop over here thinking this is just like every other f****** place on line with the same mouth breathers wanting the same cheap stuff and easy short cuts. Its actually discouraging some days to think that is the bulk of the gun community.
    Fortunately we're not a part of the gun community. They might interact with us at times, but we aren't them. Told a guy on FB the other day that him owning a gun didn't mean he had anything in common with me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Payne View Post
    .....Told a guy on FB the other day that him owning a gun didn't mean he had anything in common with me.


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