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    6 off duty cops at the bar during the shooting.

    He killed himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackie View Post
    6 off duty cops at the bar during the shooting.
    Wow...source?

    Unarmed I expect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    Wow...source?

    Unarmed I expect.
    CNN. I assume unarmed.

    https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/cal...037f920e24ef2a
    6 off-duty officers were in the bar last night
    There were six off-duty officers from various agencies inside the Borderline Bar & Grill at the time of the shooting, Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said.

    Dean said a mother recalled that the officers stood in front of her daughter to protect her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackie View Post
    CNN. I assume unarmed.

    the officers stood in front of her daughter to protect her.
    I am not impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7 Mary 3 View Post
    CNN saying Shooter is Ian David Long. Name doesnt match that photo unless hes a convert. USMC vet and used a Glock.

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    IF that is the killer, the picture damn sure points to him being subverted into the ideology of evil called islam, and we now have an good idea of his motives.

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    Are these pictures of the same man?

    Hn55yqT.jpg181108-ian-long-al-1338_81505d61ba4c02c5c89df8d3113d5f5d.fit-360w.jpg

    I'm thinking, no. The nose and eyebrows are different. Hard to tell from the other features.
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    Breitbart is reporting three of the officers are Oxnard PD and three LAPD. Heroics undetermined...

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2018...oting-started/

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    I would say that's the same guy in
    both of these photo's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    Are these pictures of the same man?

    Hn55yqT.jpg181108-ian-long-al-1338_81505d61ba4c02c5c89df8d3113d5f5d.fit-360w.jpg

    I'm thinking, no. The nose and eyebrows are different. Hard to tell from the other features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    Are these pictures of the same man?

    Hn55yqT.jpg181108-ian-long-al-1338_81505d61ba4c02c5c89df8d3113d5f5d.fit-360w.jpg

    I'm thinking, no. The nose and eyebrows are different. Hard to tell from the other features.
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    A couple more of the officially named and identified shooter, Ian David Long:

    5939224-0-image-a-30_1541694704247.jpg5938982-6366501-The_gunman_is_pictured_in_a_2014_picture_with_his_mother_Witness-a-29_1541694704.jpg

    I would say, definitively, that these are not pictures of the muslim guy initially misidentified as the shooter.
    Last edited by georgeib; 11-08-2018 at 03:57 PM.
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