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  1. #21
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    Self defense is not legitimate, and therefore nor are the means to achieve it. You must just flee, hide or die. If you are a male you must be a human shield. That is liberal lore. Take God's law and turn it on its head, good is bad and bad (cowardice and thug assisted suicide) are good.

    Yeah, a healthy dose of "and fuck you too," is the proper response. As for the back stabbing by coworkers, it's going on all day long anyway.

    People live above their means and month to month so are ridiculously vulnerable to job loss. In the southern states particularly, there are no protections against unfair dismissal and absolute power corrupts supervisors.

    Add to this mix that every scum that enters the state of Florida is less likely to leave than is the average person. In reality you have a situation where multiple employees are concurrently engaged in ass reaming the bosses. It's positively sordid.

    The answer is we are descending into Sodom and Gommorah, and you best bring your own norms to the workplace. Because I never dreamed I would live among such treachery.

    I think that is the word we are looking for.
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    There are soooooo many things wrong with this incident. First we have a "troubled" patient (Im tired of calling them clients), that became agitated and the staff could only use words to calm him; but nothing to physically secure him until he became violent. Then when he becomes homicidal (as in violent and maniacal), pushing him away and using harsh language, suddenly becomes the big issue....AND the victim of the attack, sides with the Batshite crazy attacker. A huge part of this is infiltration of the Mental health field by SJWs and all medicine for that matter; but its more the PC agenda has taken root in the culture, not my culture, not our culture; but the culture we live in.

    I have preached again and again that the power Mental Health practitioners is vast and virtually unchecked This is just more proof that they can/do control more than "clients".

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    One must read ones file, to deduce the doctors inherent bias. I just read mine from my annual subsequent to working as a lifeguard in 2015.

    My doctor is Internal Medicine in a group that is affiliated with a community hospital.

    Things to know:

    The hospital was brought into being by an act of government, therefore is government. It therefore has sovereign immunity, as do it's affiliates. Therefore, they are suit-proof, and don't carry insurance.

    My doctor is my age, but looks like he is stuffed in his jacket like a sausage in its skin.

    He misquoted me to say that I was disappointed with all the things I found I couldn't do, in the context of being a lifeguard. In fact, I had told him how surprised I was that I never had a heart attack and was able to do many things I never dreamed I could do at age 52.

    So, he is jealous and writes what he wishes I had said.

    Buyer beware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endsoftheearth View Post
    One must read ones file, to deduce the doctors inherent bias. I just read mine from my annual subsequent to working as a lifeguard in 2015.

    My doctor is Internal Medicine in a group that is affiliated with a community hospital.

    Things to know:

    The hospital was brought into being by an act of government, therefore is government. It therefore has sovereign immunity, as do it's affiliates. Therefore, they are suit-proof, and don't carry insurance.

    My doctor is my age, but looks like he is stuffed in his jacket like a sausage in its skin.

    He misquoted me to say that I was disappointed with all the things I found I couldn't do, in the context of being a lifeguard. In fact, I had told him how surprised I was that I never had a heart attack and was able to do many things I never dreamed I could do at age 52.

    So, he is jealous and writes what he wishes I had said.

    Buyer beware.
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  5. #25
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    That's my observation as well. My wife is studying Dietician because it's another career where you work mostly independently. However, one would not want that getting out at ones work, that you are in a vulnerable situation of any type, that requires job stability.

    Treacherous persons love to know these things and will work fiercely to ensure that your family doesn't get ahead. At least in the work I do in Florida.

    The secret to staying healthy is autonomy in the workplace, work from home or have your own practice/business.

    Working under a group practice business manager, who demands intra-group referrals. Working in adherence to best practice prescribing/standard of care, as negotiated by pharmaceutical companies with your association etc etc means many doctors are anything but autonomous nowdays.

    As a consequence, I was told by his nurse that my doctor wanted me to get colonoscopy/endoscopy within group. That means an invasive procedure under anesthetic by people whose actions you have no legal recourse against.

    That means being pressured to take statin drugs that make the pharmaceutical industry the best part of $400 a month, out of citizens health insurance.

    Yeah, all that coercion, control and pressure removes the doctors freedom to do the best by their patients. And you need to know what monster is behind the decisions supposedly made in your best interests.

    My apologies for thread drift, mental health seems to be culture driven, whereas medical is profit driven. Either way, our interests are being subverted via the practitioner.

    Notice I don't say by the practitioner. That because I believe that the mental health field is like a mirror, reflecting societies values back at it.

    An example of this is that gay was classed a psychological aberration in the DSM back when society in general thought it so. Nowhere in recent decades DSMs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by endsoftheearth View Post

    The secret to staying healthy is autonomy in the workplace, work from home or have your own practice/business.
    Man I am so glad I have a blue collar construction job. Some day I’ll post a “tales from work” thread. But at least my job is 100% performance driven. Now there’s certainly things we won’t say to or around customers, but on site there’s not much that’s off limits. This job weeds out the pansies pretty quick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroTA View Post
    Man I am so glad I have a blue collar construction job. Some day I’ll post a “tales from work” thread. But at least my job is 100% performance driven. Now there’s certainly things we won’t say to or around customers, but on site there’s not much that’s off limits. This job weeds out the pansies pretty quick.


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  8. #28
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    Those jobs have a practical usefulness in your own life and you can teach them to your kids. They keep you out the PC bullshit and they keep you strong.

    They look better all the time.

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    Part of the learning curve. Hopefully the Vet will know he did right and move on to a better job and be more aware of who is he working for and with.

    It's a tough job. I went on community time with a friend who was in charge of a resident of a group home. We were at a swap meet when my friend noticed the guy was at the beginning stage of going off and he took him by the shoulder firmly and said "Do I have to sit on you again?". I think it was the 3rd time he said it that the guy came around and we finished walking around the swap meet and then went for ice cream. If you are wondering what the point is to these group homes and community time, it is because living with small groups with direct supervision will cause then to degenerate less that by being in a bigger institution with more violent types. And community time gets them out of the group home which isn't the greatest place, either. It's not about curing them, by the time they are at this stage there is no cure. It is all about keeping them from degenerating.

    Lessen learned by me: "a threat in time saves nine".

    I had an inlaw who was not so lucky. After many years one day a patient overpowered her and tried to pour Drano down her throat. She was lucky she got out of the hospital within 2 days and had no major damage. She is still working there. I believe the patient was moved to a more restrictive unit.

    It's a tough job but somebody has to do it, but they deserve the support of management when things go bad.
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