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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesselp View Post
    Curious - how much of a difference does the porting make to perceived blast/sound levels for the shooter?


    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkface View Post
    I didn't notice it being any worse sound or blast wise.
    I couldn't perceive any difference as either the observer or shooter. I think a short-barreled shotgun is already about maxed out on blast.

    I sort of thought we could run a test by swapping out barrels and having someone stand back a ways behind the shooter without ear pro, but it seemed unnecessary after we all shot it and no one said the blast was any different than usual.
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    I've done a lot of shooting with the ported Stakeout. I don't notice any blast, it's well away from my face. Maybe the hip shooters notice it...but if that's how you're shooting the Stakeout I have zero sympathy.

    My comp'd 357 Glock PDW is more blasty than the Stakeout. At least in terms of what I can feel, and comments from others.
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    Makes sense since shotguns are much lower pressure compared to handgun and rifle rounds.
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    Excited to try mine when it gets here and this thread just made me go from excited to downright giddy. I just wanted the slug sights to begin with and I appreciate SI offering to sell them to me separate but the combination of the install, porting, polishing and Cerakote convinced me to get the pry bar out and take that leap.

    I seem to recall a few "casual mentions" (sarcasm for the text impaired) here on the forums about the value, not the cost of the work they do so there's that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkface View Post
    Makes sense since shotguns are much lower pressure compared to handgun and rifle rounds.
    I have a braced 14", and don't notice any increased blast or noise.

    I expect auditory exclusion in an engagement, but will use hearing pro if I have time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post
    I used a 12 ga shotgun six,times in gunfights (about half the time a 14") . Its not an issue. My hearing is perfect.
    I recall, at the last shotgun class, your ear pro getting knocked off before a drill... And you running 5 full power buckshot rounds through a ported 14" Pointman with no ears (and no apparent ill effects after).

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    Excellent post, Dorkface! This should be really helpful for people on the fence about purchasing a Stakeout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Heckathorn View Post
    I recall, at the last shotgun class, your ear pro getting knocked off before a drill... And you running 5 full power buckshot rounds through a ported 14" Pointman with no ears (and no apparent ill effects after).
    I have always advocated two things.

    1. Not being so range sensitive that you "lose your sh*t" if your ear pro becomes dislodged. You see it happen all the time. A man pulls himself,out of the drill and ostensibly the fight....because an ear plug falls out.

    2. Although we dont do so in class...in my own training I shoot some without ear pro. Not alot...but a few here and there.

    To steal the phrase of "The Hound" Clegane from GOT...f*ck the range nazis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Tull View Post
    Excellent post, Dorkface! This should be really helpful for people on the fence about purchasing a Stakeout.

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    Thank you. I try and be useful whenever I can lol.
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