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  1. #41
    House gun is 18" 870 with a full extended mag, loaded with 00 from front to back. Side saddle has 2 more buck and 3 slugs..

    Truck gun is a 14" not-Stake Out, +1 mag, loaded with #4 front to back. I then have a carrier with 25 more, a mix of #4, 00, and 5 slugs. They are loaded in loops such that the #4s are on top. Followed by 00, then slugs specifically on the bottom row.

    Just one dudes plan...

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    500 a1 21” barrel fully loaded with buck, always ready and always willing....

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    Some times common sense just wins the day, you sir and your partner "A" I would have walked a trail with !
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    As a senior citizen this is a question I have never heard of before as to why someone would chose the 12 ga shotgun over other weapons for close range combat. In my generation people would have looked at you like you were crazy for raising such an issue. The deadly nature of the short barrel 12 ga shotgun was legendary. The NFA laws do include sawed off shotguns, enacted back in 1930's or so since the deadly nature of the short barreled shotgun for killing was well known.
    While we were still using smooth bore muskets for combat americans used ball and buck. I guess at one time the 10 ga was also well thought of, but with with advent of smokeless power loads, modern use of a 10 ga is more for water fowl hunting. For some reason the 16 ga has just about died. In the old days the sweet 16 with light loads of the day in trim fast handling doubles was the ultimate quail gun for the southeastern USA. No more 16's, just 12's and 20's with the 20 not handling 00 and 000 buck all that well, but doing well with number 1 in 3 inch magnum loads. But overall the 12 is the king for combat shotguns.

    Really today anyone asking such a question does not really know very much about firearms and close range combat. I gather that the problem or origin of the question is with police administrators and maybe some of the younger LEOs that get their firearms knowledge from hollywood.

    .69 ball, buck and ball and buckshot cartridges of the U.S. Army
    https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/riv...e-us-army.html
    The construction of cartridges were standardized in the U.S. Army in the year of 1835. Since that time the ball cartridge construction followed the same pattern until they disappeared from the Ordnance manuals in 1861.

    The construction of cartridges were standardized in the U.S. Army in the year of 1835. Since that time the ball cartridge construction followed the same pattern until they disappeared from the Ordnance manuals in 1861.
    One who hammers his gun into a plow plows for those who do not....Unknown
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    I doubt the volunteer line would be long for those detractors of 20 ga willing to take a charge of buckshot in the chest.
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    Or a slug in the vest.

    I see the TAC-13 is still listed as out of stock, here and everywhere else. I'd like to see a Pointman on a TAC-13. Anyone here actually shot one of these extensively--or at all?
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    I got the first one into AZ...still like horse feathers it seems. Has good and bad points. Trying to address the bad before we announce anything for them.
    Gabriel Suarez

    Turning Lambs into Lions Since 1995

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