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    mine...actually an article in progress

    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaCadet84 View Post
    My initial thoughts:

    AR pros:
    • AR manual of arms
    • Many common parts to full sized ARs (triggers, optic mounts, etc)
    • Longer barrel
    • Less expensive


    Actually the cost is the same unless its a ghetto home built on bargain parts...I suppose one could put an RMR on a high Point as well but hardly the focus here. The Size is about the same, but for 90% of those buying a PDW Glock, it is a part time application. I consider it a part time application if it does not have a cominolli safety. The AR-9 (and understand I am referring to a quality weapon with quality components and an optic) is a little easier to hit point targets with and at distance with. The lines blur, but a pistol that has been modified to work in the rifle/smg realm is not as good in that realm as a dedicated rifle/smg.


    Glock PDW pros:
    • Shorter, more compact


    If organized properly the size is not as much of an issue as some might think.



    • Can be broken down into a handgun size


    That...the Pseudo-NPE application is why most people opt for it. A man with a CCW is a common thing, whereas a man carrying a rifle is not. But a man with a CCW with a Glock PDW brace in his briefcase is easily overlooked.


    • Compatible with all glock parts
    • EDIT: More easily operated with one hand?


    Not really.




    Lets NOT fall into the trap of the "one weapon that does everything" mentality. There are situations that a PDW Glock is a better choice and a time when an AR-9 is a better choice. But we need to qualify what is desirable in an AR-9 because not all of them are equal and not all worth a damn.
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    That's a good summary to me.

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    I have built a few glock 9mm ARs. All of the lowers that I tried had lrbho. None of the were consistently reliable on holding the bolt open on all of my mags

    After rebuilding my last one, I finally got it where I want it.....i think. The biggest change I made to it was using a new frontier armory side charging upper with lrbho. The lrbho on the upper has worked 100% on every mag I have (glock, ets, magpul, even have a couple cheap Korean ones I got for free) the side charging handle helps cut back on gas to the face when suppressed. I also added a heavy buffers 12.5 oz buffer and it helps with the gas slightly also.



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    One major difference between the 9mm AR and the Glock PDW is cost of entry into the highly modular Glock PDW. Adding a 9mm AR to the battery means buying a new gun. Adding a brace to a Glock you already have is a low threshold buy-in. Spend that first $100 and you quickly realize the value of the full system, it starts you on the same R&D path that Gabe took to its logical conclusion.

    A 9mm Angstadt is GTG as soon as you mount the sights, it already has a safety and easily manipulated mag release. IMO adding a brace to a Glock, even one with an RMR, won't get you the same level of functionality until you add the safety and extended mag release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pict View Post
    IMO adding a brace to a Glock, even one with an RMR, won't get you the same level of functionality until you add the safety and extended mag release.
    Yup
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    Kinda where I was going.

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