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  1. #1
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    Default AAR: CRG-4 Force on Force Gunfighting in Ames, IA with Eric Tull Oct. 7-8

    This was a great class! It was cool watching the students in two days go from barely making accurate chest shots to having no problem with face shots while sprinting off the X. On the first day, we focused on gun-on-gun. We started with the suicide drill, which they got sick of very quickly. We then went over a couple different take-offs, learned about different angles of movement, and practiced against an opponent with a gun. On breaks, we spent the time talking about different aspects of gunfights and training. Since we had a little extra time at the end of day 1, we finished the day practicing some hostage shots, experimenting with different tactics.

    Day two focused on knife and multiple opponents. They got the knife stuff very quickly, and learned that you can vary the speed of how fast you are moving off the X based on how far away and how quick your opponent is. The slower you go, the more accurate your shooting will be, but the more likely the bad guy is to catch up and stab you. It's a balancing act. We then spent a lot of time on multiple opponents. This can be more challenging because you have to use your brain a lot more than you do against a single opponent, but at the same time, you also have to be more aggressive and move quicker. Since we had some extra time, the students requested that we practice gunfights where you start with your opponent behind you or at an angle. This section led to some very interesting discussions.

    I had a spectacular time teaching this class, and it was a privilege to train with you guys! It was really awesome how much you improved in just two days.
    Suarez International Staff Instructor, Iowa

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    Nice work, looking forward to the comments.
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    You got your concealed carry permit. You bought the gun. You bought the holster. Now if you think you're going to protect yourself with this little kit, you really need to take CRG-4. "Moving off the X" explained properly, and in detail. What you do, why you do it. What doesn't work, and why that doesn't work. (Trying both to see for yourself.) Crawl, walk, run in two days. From fundamentals to drills.
    Just took this class last weekend. This type of training should be required for concealed-carry permit holders. The amazing part was how straight forward the principles were. It was just a matter of some practice to get them to be automatic.
    When you take these classes, there are always tons of tidbits you pick up about related topics. Eric Tull is a highly competent instructor. I had the impression he could go on and on about the primary topic, or any of the somewhat tangential questions we had.
    The biggest challenge was probably the hiccups from the airsoft pistols. (I know there will be a move at some point to training with UTM.) From another perspective, it gives you the opportunity to practice overcoming malfunctions on the fly. Regardless, having targets that shoot back is priceless. The drills were like tiny airsoft games, and actually had an aspect of fun. The kind of nervous tingly fun from realizing you would be dead if you made that last mistake in real life.
    Take this class!

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    Pics from class. Notice the dynamic movement.

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    This is why we're not that concerned about your standing draw time. While it's nice to have a fast standing draw, what really matters is if you can do it while exploding off the X.

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    If the bad guy gets too close, you'll have to take some shortcuts with your drawstroke, such as keeping the gun somewhat compressed.
    Last edited by Eric Tull; 10-12-2017 at 11:14 AM.
    Suarez International Staff Instructor, Iowa

    "EVERY MAN IS A COUNTER TERRORIST." --Gabe Suarez
    "It's not the will to win that matters--everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." --Paul "Bear" Bryant
    "Love of theory is the root of all evil." --William M. Briggs

    Formerly "ericmt"

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    A cool action shot while he moves to the 5:00

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    A great example of dynamic movement. This student is quite athletic, which made it much easier for him to avoid a knife attack.

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    Transferring the pistol to left hand while sprinting off the X to the 5:00. This student preferred to transfer instead of firing multiple shots with his right hand.
    Last edited by Eric Tull; 10-12-2017 at 11:16 AM.
    Suarez International Staff Instructor, Iowa

    "EVERY MAN IS A COUNTER TERRORIST." --Gabe Suarez
    "It's not the will to win that matters--everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." --Paul "Bear" Bryant
    "Love of theory is the root of all evil." --William M. Briggs

    Formerly "ericmt"

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    No weaver or isosceles stance.

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    Notice the the simultaneous vertical and horizontal displacement.
    Last edited by Eric Tull; 10-12-2017 at 11:17 AM.
    Suarez International Staff Instructor, Iowa

    "EVERY MAN IS A COUNTER TERRORIST." --Gabe Suarez
    "It's not the will to win that matters--everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." --Paul "Bear" Bryant
    "Love of theory is the root of all evil." --William M. Briggs

    Formerly "ericmt"

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    This is my favorite picture. Look how far the good guy has moved before the bad guy has even had a chance to react. This is what we're looking for when it comes to dynamic movement.
    Last edited by Eric Tull; 10-12-2017 at 11:19 AM.
    Suarez International Staff Instructor, Iowa

    "EVERY MAN IS A COUNTER TERRORIST." --Gabe Suarez
    "It's not the will to win that matters--everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." --Paul "Bear" Bryant
    "Love of theory is the root of all evil." --William M. Briggs

    Formerly "ericmt"

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    Looks like a great and informative class Eric. Did you get to hand out an award for a bad guy knocking off a good guys mask?
    The biggest hindrance to adaptability is ego.

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