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  1. #61
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    "they have no basis of comparison and have trouble understanding how an education in violence is presented and have to struggle through the internalization of the topic."
    -Greg Nichols

    "mediocrity is the order of the day and everyone gets a trophy just for showing up."
    -Shooterb

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by braindoc View Post
    Taipan,
    What is the advantage of the rib vs w/o the rib?
    It's ribbed for your pleasure?
    Greg "Hyena" Nichols
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    #thinkinginviolence
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    Always entertaining, mildly offensive
    IANative: Indeed, when you grab Brent (or he grabs you), it feels like liquid unobtanium wrapped in rawhide... whereas Greg is just solid muscle wrapped in hate, seasoned w/ snuff and a little lead.

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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel Suarez View Post

    Chicks dig the rib.
    Does the rib serve any purpose beyond the cosmetic?
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogDoc View Post
    Does the rib serve any purpose beyond the cosmetic?
    with bead sights it gives a flat plane to sight through. As an example Brent's front sight fell off his 870 at the shotgun class and I was still able to make slug hits on target at over 50m. I can shoot with or without the rib but feel it adds accuracy with it's visual reference.
    Greg "Hyena" Nichols
    Instagram: tacfit_az
    Facebook: SI Instructor Greg Nichols

    #thinkinginviolence
    #tactisexual

    Always entertaining, mildly offensive
    IANative: Indeed, when you grab Brent (or he grabs you), it feels like liquid unobtanium wrapped in rawhide... whereas Greg is just solid muscle wrapped in hate, seasoned w/ snuff and a little lead.

    http://www.warriortalk.com/showthrea...he-Obscenities

  5. #65
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    Thanks Greg
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Nichols View Post
    with bead sights it gives a flat plane to sight through. As an example Brent's front sight fell off his 870 at the shotgun class and I was still able to make slug hits on target at over 50m. I can shoot with or without the rib but feel it adds accuracy with it's visual reference.
    I agree with this 100%. The best upgrade to my order by far!


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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogDoc View Post
    Does the rib serve any purpose beyond the cosmetic?
    It helps dissipate heat, right?

    But yeah, the vent rib looks like it BELONGS on the Stakeout ....

  8. #68
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    Brent Yamamoto
    Suarez International Tier 1 Staff Instructor

    Ready, willing, able. Bring it.

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  9. #69
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    IMG_1063.jpg

    Once you put put your hands on this weapon the Battle Axe analogy becomes even more clear. It feels like you could as easily beat someone to death with this thing as shoot them. I think I have a new favorite.
    “Every day the same thing...variety”

  10. #70
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    I built one that predated the Mossberg Shockwave by a few months. To be fair, the dude at Shockwave, Marty told me Mossberg was doing this so I thought if they can do it...
    I have kept notes on everything dating back to the 1980s. (Some in code due to statutes of limitations and all...). I dug out my Gang Unit notes and how I used the homemade sawed off 870. Back then it wasn't a culture of pictures and instagram so I never got any pics of this.

    All of it came back when I began to wield this beast. And when adding our new developments in terms of tactics, movement, etc. It really began to shine. You can go from a "smaller than fist size" group out to 10 yards, to a "cover the torso" shot at five feet with careful ammo choices. It is likely the most destructive CQB weapon known to man and exceed the rifle and SMG inside and up close. Head shots turn into decapitations. Peripheral hits rip off the musculature from the bone.

    I know the term "killing power" is out of vogue for many years now and the pundits counter with "anything can kill", but I will say I have seen multitudes shot in my time in LE. Most guys shot with a 12 ga and buckshot never made it to the hospital much less the ambulance. And those that survived did not feel at all like doing anything other than laying down and hoping somebody came to save them.

    Battle axe...yes...
    Gabriel Suarez

    Turning Lambs into Lions Since 1995

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