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    So with all happening over here, the local agri union want to start a farmwatch etc. At the meeting the guys in charge suggestions basically came to wait for the cops, get people interested in patrols by taking them for a braai somewhere you cant observe a road and follow a plan drafted by the police and AgriSa.
    My suggestion were get proffesionals to give us training, set up a reaction plan and train quick reaction sqauds. I eventualy had the one headshed with his head in his hands eyes closed just shaking it. Especialy when i said this plan is insufficient and waiting for the local cops to react is like waiting snow in the summer. We have good ones but they are quite few.
    Funny how these guys can see whats going on but they want to have barbie and a couple of beers.
    Having a meeting on wednesday again, getting a pro cop in to explain the legal aspects and then either they turn proffesional or I am out. Not interested in getting shot in the back of the head by a oke just coming from a braai.

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    Yeah I guess you should give them one last chance to pull their heads from their asses. If they "get it" great (there might be a few), otherwise F them and move onto taking care of yourself and family. IF some see the light and decide youve got the right idea, then still be cautious till they prove themselves.

    Waiting for the cops is a bad idea under the simplest most minor situations, its just plain STUPID when the bad guys know they have "popular approval"
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    Jip, I mentioned getting Wolverine up here for a course, but it were like ummm aaah we will talk about it. There is a couple of guys who is jacked, maar the most is pretty head in his he sand. With long guns a terr are going to come of second best, but up close they are lacking. My suggestion on the nect meeting will be quick reaction units, trained for combat and first aid, funded by guys who dont want to do patrols and roadblocks etc. Hopefully it may grab there attention, otherwise me and the family will have to depend on ourselves, which we have been basically doing sofar, we will just have to get more dangerous and equiped

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    If my time must come, let it be when I am protecting my loved ones. Let there be a pile of brass scattered around me and a pile of my enemies at my feet. Let my slides be locked open on empty mags and my knife broken. Let my face be bloody from biting the throat of my last foe and let me be wearing a necklace of fresh ears. Take me to Your Heavens and let me hear the laughter of my children as they reenact the fight and I will rest peacefully.- Edelweiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boetman View Post
    So with all happening over here, the local agri union want to start a farmwatch etc. At the meeting the guys in charge suggestions basically came to wait for the cops, get people interested in patrols by taking them for a braai somewhere you cant observe a road and follow a plan drafted by the police and AgriSa.
    My suggestion were get proffesionals to give us training, set up a reaction plan and train quick reaction sqauds. I eventualy had the one headshed with his head in his hands eyes closed just shaking it. Especialy when i said this plan is insufficient and waiting for the local cops to react is like waiting snow in the summer. We have good ones but they are quite few.
    Funny how these guys can see whats going on but they want to have barbie and a couple of beers.
    Having a meeting on wednesday again, getting a pro cop in to explain the legal aspects and then either they turn proffesional or I am out. Not interested in getting shot in the back of the head by a oke just coming from a braai.

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    You might want to see if there are any old former Rhodesians around. Ask them to front up and offer some insights base upon their 'pre-Zimbabwe' experiences for the 'head in the sand' mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.D. View Post
    You might want to see if there are any old former Rhodesians around. Ask them to front up and offer some insights base upon their 'pre-Zimbabwe' experiences for the 'head in the sand' mob.
    I second this. If any of them are pacifist Christians see if Peter Hammond will come from Cape Town. His testimony and teaching would be very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boetman View Post
    otherwise me and the family will have to depend on ourselves, which we have been basically doing sofar, we will just have to get more dangerous and equiped
    I bet if you look around the room real hard, you'll find a few that'll throw in with you. Don't neglect them, they may provide help.
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    We have some of the most knowledgeable people in our district, the one gentleman is doing a plan for me currently and will come around and set a shtf plan up for us. The problem is these guys get cut out of the loop with this. Seems like the guys at the head of security wants to hoard everything and be in the cops good books, dont want to make waves. We will see with the next meeting. Problem is we are so widely spread that the guys that are keen are very far apart. Unless a drastic plan is made, I am worried it will fall flat. Will keep you guys up to date.

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    If my time must come, let it be when I am protecting my loved ones. Let there be a pile of brass scattered around me and a pile of my enemies at my feet. Let my slides be locked open on empty mags and my knife broken. Let my face be bloody from biting the throat of my last foe and let me be wearing a necklace of fresh ears. Take me to Your Heavens and let me hear the laughter of my children as they reenact the fight and I will rest peacefully.- Edelweiss.

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    My suggestion to get a specialist in for the legal side of things were ambushed today. There were lots of interest into it, but I am getting the feeling that certain persons are trying to hoard everything, almost like they are trying to keep the people dumb.

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    If my time must come, let it be when I am protecting my loved ones. Let there be a pile of brass scattered around me and a pile of my enemies at my feet. Let my slides be locked open on empty mags and my knife broken. Let my face be bloody from biting the throat of my last foe and let me be wearing a necklace of fresh ears. Take me to Your Heavens and let me hear the laughter of my children as they reenact the fight and I will rest peacefully.- Edelweiss.

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    It is a good thing neither you nor any of your neighbours gossip in front of your farm workers about 'certain people' having a stash of diamonds and gold hidden in their house. It would be traumatic for them if something like a robbery happened to them and caused them to rethink 'trying to hoard everything', 'keeping people dumb', their self-importance and empire building.

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    Subtle hint, subtle hint.

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