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  1. #1
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    Default Early Glock PDW Prototype


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    Oh, my.
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    "To spit on your hands and lower the pike; to stand fast over the body of Leonidas the King; to be rear guard at Kunu-Ri; to stand and be still to the Birkenhead Drill; these are not rational acts. They are often merely necessary." Pournelle

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    If you like old gun porn grab a copy of "Sixguns" by Elmer Keith. There are several pages of pictures of stocked wheel guns. Some really cool stuff in that book.

    Before the NFA taxed them out of what people could practically pay removable stocks were a cheap and not uncommon accessory. As I understand it from period sources they were mainly a hunting thing. They aren't something you could reasonably hook up under fire, but if you carried one in your pack or saddle bags it allows you to convert a side arm into a better game getter.

    Considering that the $200 tax isn't the barrier it was 80 years ago I'm surprised you don't see more of this stuff. The cowboy gun crowd is huge and they spend some money on their toys. Adding a tax stamp and a stock to the price of a new single action revolver is "chicken feed." Likewise the modern doomsday prepper types could throw one on their double action magnum hand cannon and be ready for whatever it is they are readying themself for. No one does it. The only hand guns I've seen with real tax paid stocks are modern autos. Don't get me wrong, that's a more practical package, but I'm surprised that with so many SBRs that are purely recreational and so much interest in old west guns; no one makes these once common old west SBRs.

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    Is not one of the reason two-handed, stocked wheel guns never really caught on was the flash from the cylinder gap? I recall that was the reason for trials of stocked revolvers for U.S. Calvary and dragoons were eliminated in the period after the Mexican and Civil Wars. No one wanted their arms getting a black powder tattoo trying to hold a revolver rifle with the support arm fully extended in parallel to the barrel.

    i very occasionally get caught with cylinder gap particles when shooting J Frames. Mostly powder, but I have felt shaved lead once or twice. That said, my Brwoning Buckmark is worse for tossing lead.

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    I'd be more concerned by the proximity of face/eyes to the cylinder. Percussion caps sometimes split into fragments. Multiple chambers occasionally fire even with protective lubricant over the bullets. And sometimes, given the metallurgy of the times, the cylinders blew up. The Colt Walkers were notorious for this.
    And then there's the spitting of hot gases and lead fragments at the cylinder gap, especially when the revolver is worn, or the timing is off.
    Having had multiple chambers discharge and having experienced the cylinder gap spitting firsthand makes me want to hold that sixgun at arm's length.

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    The Frasier museum in Louisville has a bunch of these, and there are some very fine examples at the NRA museum. Both worth the trip if any WT'ers are in those areas.

    JB

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