Individual Radio Configuration (very pic heavy)

[apamburn]

Right? Walking around in fear is just stupid. Show me any law enforcement officer that knows what these are and is going to waste the time to arrest you for the use of them and I'll show you a unicorn. It's like people believe that coordination vans are going to be driving around your neighborhood trying to pinpoint your location.

All this stupidity is ruining a perfectly good thread. I may go back and delete all this garbage.

I went and got my license and met a bunch of HAMs there, as well as on the radio nets and repeaters that I participated.

What I found is that most of these guys love to be experts on the stupid rules and regulations and call others out on them. Basically, it's a community of blue falcons + know it alls combined.

Which is why someone actually took the time to complain about this and get regulations changed in the first place.

That's also why I don't get on nets anymore. Still glad I have my license and I recommend others get it for repeater use.

[Dorkface]

I have no need to talk on FRS because I have my tech license.

I think that is the wrong way to look at it. What if you wanted to limit transmission power to keep the signal more localized vs. using one that could be intercepted much much further out? No reason to feed the unknown ears out there.

[kssoftwareman]

I think that is the wrong way to look at it. What if you wanted to limit transmission power to keep the signal more localized vs. using one that could be intercepted much much further out? No reason to feed the unknown ears out there.

ComSec/PerSec/OpSec. Totally agree Dorkface.

[apamburn]

I think that is the wrong way to look at it. What if you wanted to limit transmission power to keep the signal more localized vs. using one that could be intercepted much much further out? No reason to feed the unknown ears out there.

Most radios including the Baofeng allow you to select a low power mode though in some regards I'd say relying on
that for your security isn't a good plan.

And I'm not sure what power has to do with transmitting on non-FRS frequencies.

By staying off of the very limited number of FRS frequencies you are probably improving security just because fewer people have access to devices that can monitor them.

You can also enhance your security by using duplex mode: transmit on frequency "a" and receive on frequency "b".

Finally, with a HAM radio you can use frequency offsets and CTCS codes to further obfuscate your transmissions.

[Thundermaker]

Quansheng made a knockoff of the Baofeng that's actually better. Better chipset, more durable case, etc.

Linkage to a two-pack here - includes some nice extras and a better antenna along with the stubby:

https://www.amazon.com/Quansheng-UV-...gateway&sr=8-1

Be advised these aren't supported by the CHIRP programming software but Quansheng offers their own program free that isn't too different from CHIRP.

[Johnny C!]

DF,

Well, I can't argue with that, but, I have some
FRS radio's and gave one to my son so we could
talk while he walked to the neighbors house to play
when his was about 6. We talked as he walked up
the road just fine. When he reached their driveway,
I could see him, 150 yards away (confirmed distance
on Google Earth just now) across an open field with
minimal vegetation between us, and the signal was
already garbled and he was walking perpendicular
to my line of sight. By the time he got to the front
door, comms were lost. So FRS might be good for
car to car, or in the yard at your own house, but
in my experience that will be very limited conditions.
I am not trying to argue, I just don't find them to be
anything more than kids toys, and might be useful
but under very limited conditions.

And I agree about limiting wattage for OPSEC.
I have a group of friends who have the UV5R's,
all programmed exactly the same. We have several
local repeaters & a large grouping of simplex freq's
programmed in. Several of the simplex freq's are
programmed in a grouping at 2 watts, so we can
use those when we need them for close proximity
comms.

apamburn,
I doubt we would feel the need to use any
of the FRS freq's, but if we did, I don't think
I would be too worried about anyone who
happened to hear one of those transmissions
and all they had to listen to it with was an FRS
radio.

Also, we have not worked on cross band/freq
transmissions. I am pretty sure the UV5R's will
do that, but I have not investigated that feature.


Again, I am not trying to argue, just stating my
experience.

John

I think that is the wrong way to look at it. What if you wanted to limit transmission power to keep the signal more localized vs. using one that could be intercepted much much further out? No reason to feed the unknown ears out there.

[C.J. Singleton]

I didn't watch the video because anyone who looks like that has nothing to say that I care about. I mean seriously dude looks like he is afraid of his own shadow, and for good reason; his shadow could and likely has beat his ass.

On the topic though I bought 2 of the 8 watt radios a few days ago just because a .Gov says I can't

I received my 5 pack of 8 watt models the day the sales ban went into effect lol. I have 5 of the 4 watt models as well ordered them as soon as I heard that the ban was coming.

I currently have the public frequencies programmed in because the other ROs at matches have been using the walkers razor muffs with the attached FRS radio I replicated your lapel mic + earpro setup

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[coastalcop]

Just FYI, as of today at least it seems that they are still orderable thru amazon (most models including 8W) I dont know if that is to get rid of supply on hand /in warehouse , or if they havent gotten the word.

[Greg Nichols]

I went and got my license and met a bunch of HAMs there, as well as on the radio nets and repeaters that I participated.

What I found is that most of these guys love to be experts on the stupid rules and regulations and call others out on them. Basically, it's a community of blue falcons + know it alls combined.

Which is why someone actually took the time to complain about this and get regulations changed in the first place.

That's also why I don't get on nets anymore. Still glad I have my license and I recommend others get it for repeater use.

That is so unreasonably homosexual I could never bring myself to participate.

[SoCal1]

I went and got my license and met a bunch of HAMs there, as well as on the radio nets and repeaters that I participated.

What I found is that most of these guys love to be experts on the stupid rules and regulations and call others out on them. Basically, it's a community of blue falcons + know it alls combined.

Which is why someone actually took the time to complain about this and get regulations changed in the first place.

That's also why I don't get on nets anymore. Still glad I have my license and I recommend others get it for repeater use.

The FCC does not really care what HAMs whine about. The FCC only cared about radios that are easily field programmable for non-ham frequencies when they got reports of interference on public safety frequencies.


https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...228090311.html

All the hand waving about these radios going away is stupid. There are plenty of radios that will not be band with the only difference being you will have to use a computer to program the frequencies.




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