Hounds of war: Let`s see `em!

[barnetmill]

Ja, agreed. I just want to be sure it will chow an heathen when the shtf.
On a side note, we have meat and I never want to be shot with a 5.56. Definetly not with a hunting round. And the poor idiot that ever sneaks down my passage........

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Many people are now locally using their assault rifles to hunt where the hunting laws permits it to be done. I know people do hunt our small southern whitetail deer with the 5.56 nato rounds with great success. Many use the cheapo 7.62x39 with fmj bullets on feral hogs that about the size of your wart hogs. The ranges are usually close and the steel jacket FMJ bullets often deform and give good penetration.
For me the dogs are mainly a warning system and a barrier. If you have woman folk at home that are not well trained then you want a dog inside for sure. A dog kept inside the house if more effective at protecting people in the house than is one that is kept outside. Outside dogs are readily poisoned a day or so in advance of their upcoming assault in the house. At least one of mine is kept outside at night to deal with wild life and to protect what is outside of the house. So anything outside is potentially at risk.

[Ajackz]

Boetman you will have to test Your GSD, just because a dog shows aggression does not mean that it will rip the face off an intruder. The Term all Bark,No bite is very common in the dog world. GSDs can make great Protection Dogs and are typically more forgiving to a new handler than say a Malinois.

Ive personally seen more Malinois have that primal instinct on ripping something to shreds, however they need lots of attention as they are extremely active and can get bored easily.
Look for a local to semi local protection dog club. Aka K9 PSA club.


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[Boetman]

Shot thanks. Fully agree, I cant allow that anypart of our defensive system goes untested. Thanks again mate

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[Ajackz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B03y...&feature=share

This is my dog Ahrens at our last meet up.

Finding a club with experience handlers is a key component in education both a New Handler and Dog.




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[Boetman]

Thats cool. Is that a malanois? Will google and see what comes up. Why do they teach the dogs to go for the arm or do you guys just offer the arm? Interest sake.

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[barnetmill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B03y...&feature=share

This is my dog Ahrens at our last meet up.

Finding a club with experience handlers is a key component in education both a New Handler and Dog.

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The above I is so true and important . Ajackz your other advice is also very spot on about the breeds and such. We are talking about domestic settings and I think much of the schutzhund training is handled more like a sport. Sort of like the square range gunfighting concept that is still so common here in the USA.

The great thing about South Africa is that there is lot of knowledge there for some time. Many years ago I was walking around Johannesburg and noticed in the a Stadium that was part of a University downtown people training GSD. That was about 1981

There have been bad outcomes from some trained dogs intended for police work in domestic settings that I am not going to go into in part because I would repeating what I have read and not seen. Our group specifically bans anyone using our dogs in Schutzhund, but we do have a highly respected member that does such training but with other dog types. And he knows so much that we all pay great attention to what ever he posts.

Picture of advertising photo below of this fellow. I like the bully breeds for attacking evil people. A dog that is real game will fight to death to defend his homestead and their jaws and general body build are much more powerful. The major short coming is many have small teeth. For a dog to kill efficiently, bigger teeth are needed. Many are derived from catch dogs and big teeth are not a good option for dog intended to hang on to a hog's ear.



Welcome to Von Bauern Haus Kennels!
Home of the Working Bulldog and Terrier Breeds.
Owner/Trainer: Y G

Decoys: Y G, P B

Established 1990
Breeder: American Bulldogs, Am. Staffordshire and Pit Bull Terriers

[Ajackz]

Thats cool. Is that a malanois? Will google and see what comes up. Why do they teach the dogs to go for the arm or do you guys just offer the arm? Interest sake.

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Ahrens Is a true PPD. He will bite whatever he can get to first. We did not have a full suit that day so it is wise for the decoy to offer up the arm. Generally speaking when nothing is offered he targets high in the ribcage.

A lot of sport dogs will target high on the inner bicep.

Ahrens is a Belgian Malinois.


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[barnetmill]

Some think that this was a great dog. Looks like this was a good way to loose some fingers on the part of the decoy.

ttb's atilla krunch kennels

[Ajackz]

Some think that this was a great dog. Looks like this was a good way to loose some fingers on the part of the decoy.

That is a bite on the upper inner bicep. You can see how little control the decoy had over himself with the dog acting as a counter weight. What control he did have was due to the fact that his flesh was not being ripped up because of the bite suit. A working dog will rarely go for hands or fingers because they are conditioned to go for a deep "full" bite fingers and hands to not allow that deep controlling bite.

For the most part ill agree with others that that was a solid performance from that pup. A stronger "out" would be nice but that takes a lot of work and confidence to get a dog to that point.

A good decoy is not afraid to rough up on the dog in the bite. In have videos of decoys actually petting my dogs head

In his photo you can see how far back the dog must get his target, when training from puppy stage to adulthood the dog will not get a reward until a full bite is achieved.



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[barnetmill]

That is a bite on the upper inner bicep. You can see how little control the decoy had over himself with the dog acting as a counter weight. What control he did have was due to the fact that his flesh was not being ripped up because of the bite suit. A working dog will rarely go for hands or fingers because they are conditioned to go for a deep "full" bite fingers and hands to not allow that deep controlling bite.

For the most part ill agree with others that that was a solid performance from that pup. A stronger "out" would be nice but that takes a lot of work and confidence to get a dog to that point.

A good decoy is not afraid to rough up on the dog in the bite. In have videos of decoys actually petting my dogs head

In his photo you can see how far back the dog must get his target, when training from puppy stage to adulthood the dog will not get a reward until a full bite is achieved.



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I never knew there was so much involved in that sort of training. Be interesting to read more on this type training. Why not train your dogs to go for the throat and face? I have noticed that doberman pinschers seem to instinctively jump and go for the throat.