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DragoMan
11-08-2011, 01:47 PM
I had a great "Black and Tan" at a party the other night. The mix was 6 ounces of "Fat Tire" Ale and, of course, 6 ounces of Guinness.
I was somewhat dubious of the concoction, but let me tell you it was pretty damn smooth.
Yes, I know a proper "Black and Tan" should be made with Bass Ale and "Vitamin G", (Guinness Stout).
BTW, It seems that the Ale component of the beverage must be of a higher specific gravity than
the stout, so not every beer is a suitable partner with the Guinness.
I have also heard that the B&T "pro" will pour the Ale in first and the Guinness in second. The pouring of the Guinness should also be accomplished with the use of a spoon into the mix glass, (A long-handled spoon works best,... for example an iced-tea spoon), so that you get the separation of the two different beers .
So gents, here's my question: What is your favorite "Black and Tan" recipe?
BTW, I have had a "Black Castle" or two in my time...a mix of Newcastle Ale and Guinness. Excellent stuff...
DragoMan
ZMB HNTR
11-08-2011, 01:51 PM
Black Velvet (Snake Bite?) is a good one too, pear cider and Guinness.
Steve Paulson
11-08-2011, 01:56 PM
My black & tan...first, drink a Guiness. Second, drink a good amber or pale. :wink:
Jeremy
11-08-2011, 01:57 PM
I like Blacksmiths, Guinness and Smithwicks or my favorite twist, Extra Blacksmith-Guinness Extra Stout and Smithwicks. That new Guinness Black Lager is similar in taste to a Blacksmith, however. Check out the Lagerhead Brutul, http://www.brutul.com/, they also have recipes on their website. I bought my dad one. Honestly, after we have a few black and tans, we don't bother using the tool and just mix the beer in the glass :biglaugh:.
Grey Man
11-08-2011, 02:17 PM
Talk to pokeyguyjai - he was telling me bout his great recipes for black and tan pooches :biglaugh:
von Clausewitz
11-08-2011, 02:32 PM
I love a good "Black & Tan"...but recently visited a pub that serves "Black & Blue"...Guinness & Blue Moon...
Has anyone had one??? I like an ice cold Blue Moon...but fruited beer and Guinness???
Jack Rumbaugh
11-08-2011, 02:48 PM
Best Black & Tan I have ever had was at Epcot at the Rose and Crown Pub. Everything was UK strength. Awesome.
Jeremy
11-08-2011, 03:00 PM
Best Black & Tan I have ever had was at Epcot at the Rose and Crown Pub. Everything was UK strength. Awesome.
:finger: You should go to Raglan Road Irish Pub in Downtown Disney, great beer, best bread pudding I've ever had and live music and dancing on a stage that was the pulpit from a church in Ireland.
barnetmill
11-08-2011, 06:43 PM
Learn something new every day here in that black and tan is a good drink. I had thought that a Black and Tan was either a dog or a member of the troops brought in by the English to fight the Irish Republicans during the 1920's.
trac1
11-08-2011, 08:23 PM
Another good half and half is Guinness and Harp.
DragoMan
11-08-2011, 08:35 PM
Yes, I've heard that it's unwise to order a "Black and Tan" in Ireland as it might be construed that you're making a statement about your support for the "Black and Tans", British paramilitaries who fought the Irish independence forces in the 1920's. That would be like ordering a drink called "The General Sherman" in an Atlanta bar.
In Erie, it's best to order a "half and half"....although, if you're ordering from a barmaid, that could be construed as something else again.....
DragoMan
Learn something new every day here in that black and tan is a good drink. I had thought that a Black and Tan was either a dog or a member of the troops brought in by the English to fight the Irish Republicans during the 1920's.
Coach
11-08-2011, 09:38 PM
Oh.
I thought this was gonna be about cooking a Coon Hound.
Nevermind.
barnetmill
11-09-2011, 11:23 AM
Oh.
I thought this was gonna be about cooking a Coon Hound.
Nevermind.
Some asians might consider such a dish to be bom vivant eating.
Sort of a side question which culture is most knowledgeable about mixed drinks? I am not asking who consumes the most alcohol since that would be northern europeans, but who knows how to enjoy it the best.
TrojanSkyCop1
11-09-2011, 11:27 AM
Another good half and half is Guinness and Harp.
^^This.^^ My first, and for many years only, exposure to Black 'n' Tans was the Harp iteration. Which I favor 'cuz it's pure Irish.
DragoMan
11-09-2011, 11:50 AM
In Ireland most people use either Smithwick's Ale or Harp to make a "half and Half". While people over here often use Bass Ale as the base beverage, the Irish don't think too much of mixing their beloved Guinness with an English beer.
I believe that if you order a "half and half" in Ireland you will get a Harp and Guinness drink. This is understood by most bartenders because Guinness Brewery owns Harp.
Lastly, here is an exhaustive list of "Black and Tan" recipes:
http://gigfy.com/pour-a-perfect-guinness-black-and-tan.html
DragoMan
Heywood
11-09-2011, 10:40 PM
I used to make them often with Deschutes Brewery Black Butte Porter and either Mirror Pond pale Ale or Fat tire when I wanted something softer.
Guinness is too mellow for a proper black and tan.
Sleestak
11-10-2011, 02:55 AM
I like the Snakebite too but I prefer apple cider and more Guiness than cider.
vlazlow
11-10-2011, 06:38 AM
When I was in England I always was served Guiness and Harp.
10-96
11-11-2011, 08:32 PM
I have had a black & tan with Guinness & Sam Adams Lager that was pretty good.
Speaking of Guinness, I had some of the new Guinness Black Lager tonight. It was ok. Nothing special. But i chased it with a shot, or two :happy: , of Bushmills and it tasted much better!
JHawk
11-12-2011, 03:07 PM
I have had a black & tan with Guinness & Sam Adams Lager that was pretty good.
Speaking of Guinness, I had some of the new Guinness Black Lager tonight. It was ok. Nothing special. But i chased it with a shot, or two :happy: , of Bushmills and it tasted much better!
Bet you slept well!
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