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dwp21
09-03-2011, 07:05 PM
Today was my first time trying the Hornady 208gr Amax in my .308. I only got the chance to shoot 5 of them so far but the results look promising. They shot just under 3/4" at 100 yards. The rifle is a stock Savage 10fcp with an HS precision stock. I normally shoot the 175gr Match King out of it but decided to try these due to their super high BC. Plus they are cheaper than the Match King. I think anyone who is shooting a .308 should give them a try. They show a lot of potential as a long range bullet.

Will let you guys know the results as soon as I've had a chance to run them across a chrono and try them at the 600 yard line.

Scott Vandiver
09-06-2011, 01:53 PM
I would like to hear the results. What is the twist rate and lerngth of the barrel on that rifle?

SPQR476
09-06-2011, 02:15 PM
They are an awesome long range bullet...in a .300wm, anyway. I don't know if you can drive them fast enough to make it a worthwhile loading in a .308, esp with the amount of powder capacity you'll probably lose loading them to magazine length, but I'm pulling for ya....it's a crazy high BC for a .30 cal.

spanky68
09-06-2011, 02:54 PM
Berger bullets just introduced even higher bc .30 caliber hybrid bullets than the Amax in 185, 210 and 230 grains and they work great in .308 and even better in .300 win mag pushed hard. :thumbsup:

usmc1986
09-06-2011, 03:02 PM
I've seen good results from folks running them in a factory 1:12 Remington "sewer pipe" - 1:10 would give you the best safety margin. Don't test your first few loads with a suppressor - make sure the 208's are stable at 10-25 yds first. It seems R17 is a good powder for much of the testing I've read. H4350 is around the same speed (Burn Rate) I just haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

If you'd like I can post up some results or PM you from various folks with different rifles/twist rates testing over the last 2 or so years to possibly save you some time.

manco5
09-06-2011, 04:03 PM
I am very interested in your results. I reload a LWRC RPER in 308 20 inch med wt brl.

BlackCamo
09-06-2011, 08:01 PM
Yes, I just picked up a box of these as well, yet to try them out in my Savage 10FP...

dwp21
09-08-2011, 03:15 PM
I would like to hear the results. What is the twist rate and lerngth of the barrel on that rifle?

The rifle is a 24" 1 in 10 twist. I loaded 47.5g of RL17 in Black Hills match brass.

Should get a chance to go stretch these out next weekend.

lmb7784
09-08-2011, 06:49 PM
Tagged for interest.

dwp21
09-09-2011, 04:50 PM
I've seen good results from folks running them in a factory 1:12 Remington "sewer pipe" - 1:10 would give you the best safety margin. Don't test your first few loads with a suppressor - make sure the 208's are stable at 10-25 yds first. It seems R17 is a good powder for much of the testing I've read. H4350 is around the same speed (Burn Rate) I just haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

If you'd like I can post up some results or PM you from various folks with different rifles/twist rates testing over the last 2 or so years to possibly save you some time.

Would love to see your results. Post or PM which ever you prefer.

Shaughn
09-09-2011, 08:03 PM
I'm interested as well, though I am more likely to use in a 300 WM, when I use up the 220 SMK's.

I have found good results with the 178 NM (discontinued) and the AMAX, using W748 and NATO IVI or LC Match brass in an M14 NM rifle, haven't tried them in a bolt rifle, though.

Please keep us advised.

TAZ
09-30-2011, 04:12 PM
What kind of muzzle velocity are you getting with the 208's. That's some crazy BC for the round.

JimD
11-14-2011, 12:40 PM
I've been shooting them in my .308 for a couple years. You can usually get close to 2600the fps with rl17. Dope is around 9.5 mills/32-33moa at my 300ASL. Have shot from 20a degrees to 100the degrees and my dope has changed about 2 minutes at 1k over that wide of a temperature swing. They are amazing in the wind compared to the 175/178 bullets. Downside is they will not mag feed in a Remington short action but will in a Savage or sometimes in a Badger detachable mag. We have tried the rl17/208amax combo in probably ten rifles and it has not failed to work yet. We also shoot the 208's in the 300WM. Try around 72 grains RL22.

Skeleton In The Closet
11-14-2011, 10:05 PM
im thinking of loading them in my 308 as well. im planning a barrel chop down to 14.5in or so with perm flash hider. how long of a bbl are you using for the 308 btw?

Tacmed1
11-15-2011, 09:03 AM
Personally, I think I’m going to go with Zombie Max ammo!...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bQWb-5nblx4

BlackCamo
11-16-2011, 02:19 AM
Just doing the initial reloading development and my loads are doing about 2400 F.P.S. which is very close to what you would normally expect for this weight projectile. Nice tight groups so far and very happy.


What kind of muzzle velocity are you getting with the 208's. That's some crazy BC for the round.

dwp21
11-24-2011, 12:08 AM
Sorry it took me so long to get back with chrono results. I am getting 2430fps from a 24" barrel. Still havnt had a chance to stretch it out to 600 yards. After the first of the year my rifle will be wearing a different barrel so all my load development right now doesn't mean a whole lot.

JimD
05-29-2012, 12:38 PM
I had a Badger DBM put on my .308 recently. I can now mag feed the 208's at 2.89 OAL. I ended up having to drop back a grain of powder to 46.0 RL17. Still shoots below a minute at 1k. Dope is 10.0 mils. Just wanted to give an update and also that they can work at mag length if you use a Badger DBM.

dwp21
05-29-2012, 04:46 PM
Jim I have actually recently put the Savage on the back burner for a Remington in an AICS 2.0 stock. Im hoping the AI magazine will allow me to seat the bullet a little longer.

I still havnt had a chance to push the 208 amax hard yet but that is coming as soon as I get this Remington done.

georgeib
05-29-2012, 08:03 PM
FWIW, the best BC bullets for the 308 semi-auto seem to be the Hornady Amax 178s at .530. I know they shoot great out of my 1:10 barrels, both 16" and 24".

charley103
05-29-2012, 08:10 PM
I s'pose I should apologize for not knowing this, but...

What are the expansion/ penetration characteristics for the Amax?

It's not bonded, right? Is it specifically engineered for trajectory, or is it a hunter with good terminal ballistics as well?

Jeremyc
05-29-2012, 08:32 PM
It is specifically engineered for trajectory

lmb7784
05-29-2012, 09:12 PM
FWIW, the best BC bullets for the 308 semi-auto seem to be the Hornady Amax 178s at .530. I know they shoot great out of my 1:10 barrels, both 16" and 24".

George, what kind of velocity are you getting with the 16" bbl? And, if you don't mind, what is your load data? A PM will be much appeeciated if you don't want it public. Thanks, LB

JimD
05-30-2012, 07:29 AM
My barrel is 24".

Charley103, the amax was designed as a target bullet however it has very good performance in flesh. I have used the 178 and 208's on deer and have many friends who have used yhose two along with the 162 in 7mm and the 140 in 6.5. They have all done well on deer sized game. I know of many folks using the 208's on elk and getting pass throughs so i personally trust them. The 208's also do well at subsonic velocities as far as terminal performance.

georgeib
05-30-2012, 11:05 AM
George, what kind of velocity are you getting with the 16" bbl? And, if you don't mind, what is your load data? A PM will be much appeeciated if you don't want it public. Thanks, LB

LB,
I don't reload, so I exclusively shoot the Hornady Superperformance Match 178s. None the less, my average velocity out of the 16" is 2540 fps. With an average spread of 21 fps. Supersonic out to about 1140 yards according to my ballistic calc. :-)