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cco45acp
08-11-2011, 09:00 PM
Anyone hear any good rumors about whether these will be available in the U.S. in 2012?
ordinarysaint
08-11-2011, 10:40 PM
Wont happen anytime soon,sadly.Emission requirements make it to difficult without some major changes to the Euro-diesels.
EDELWEISS
08-11-2011, 11:49 PM
Well it would make the J8's one step closer.
Netpackrat
08-12-2011, 02:03 AM
I used to want a diesel Wrangler, but then I decided that I wouldn't want to live with it. Wouldn't want to deal with possible cold starting issues in the winter, and driving it to and from work year round isn't good for a diesel engine. What I really would like to have in my Wrangler is the 4.7L V-8 that we have in our Commander. That engine is just a perfect balance of light weight and power. We test drove the hemi Commander and it was just excessive in many ways...
Spiffy
08-12-2011, 03:20 AM
I remember an editorial in Jeep Magazine that they are kicking around one for the SUV type Jeeps and that the Wrangler people can officially start holding our breath. There is also a crate engine out there that will fit in 97-06 TJs but it's like 8 grand for just the engine and then you have to put it in and do all the changes it requires.
Gun Mutt
08-12-2011, 03:47 AM
I've driven the first of the 2012 Wranglers that hit our lot. The new engine is the 3.6L Pentastar and the automatic transmission has gone from 4 to 5 speed. Wranglers now have passing speed. We're gonna sell a blue ton of them.
BigEd63
08-12-2011, 04:18 AM
... We test drove the hemi Commander and it was just excessive in many ways...
Probably so. What I'd like to see are the new Wranglers with a fuel injected 5.2 but built for low end torque. Like I did with the Chevy small block I put in my CJ7.
NedMan
08-12-2011, 07:43 AM
I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (Common Rail Diesel). I don't know what the problem with commuting and diesels is, and I've had diesels off and on for 24 years, but that was one hell of a rig. Got 30mpg and could go anywhere its predecessor the Cherokee could.
If they'd put a diesel in the Wrangler or, especially the Wrangler Unlimited, they'd have a winner.
Vigilant
08-12-2011, 09:09 AM
You can buy one on your own, and have the diesel engine retrofitted! Unfortunately, last I heard, you would end up with a $50,000 JK? I think A.E.V. offers one.
Mayflower
08-12-2011, 11:53 AM
Short trips, in theory, will shorten the life of a diesel motor that doesn't get warmed up enough to get certain acids out of the oil... I say so what, just change the oil regularly (5000 miles), do a flush every couple years, you'll be just fine. If it was me and I had a diesel 4x4, then it would get PLENTY of warm up on the weekends to make up for it's weekday sloth.
In real life, we have 3 diesel trucks at work that only make short trips, and never had a problem. Same thing for our diesel fork lift, it makes VERY short trips sometime measuring in feet, never had a problem.
In my AO virtually all the farm trucks are diesel. Lots of short trips on a farm... lots of time idling... and very dirty conditions. Co-worker of mine has one old Dodge diesel farm truck that has over 1,050,000 miles on it, NEVER any motor work, and it ran 16.01 in the quarter last month.
If you want a diesel go for it. I had a diesel Chevy Suburban for a while, didn't like the foul smelling fuel on my hands after a fill up, but the 20-22 MPG was hard to beat. Just remember living with a diesel can be a drag every now and then... but just about everything you have rode in something powered by diesel at one time.
Now excuse me, I need to get on a diesel tractor and drive it about 1/2 mile, the motor will be just fine after this.
Netpackrat
08-12-2011, 12:20 PM
Sorry to have not clarified. My daily drive to/from work is only about 10 miles, and most other driving I do is less than that. Combined with the 6 months of winter around here, it's just not worth paying more for a diesel when it isn't suited to the conditions. I also occasionally go out to our cabin in the winter time in my Jeep. It can get down past 40 and 50 below out there in the winter. I try not to go out there when it is like that, but there's always the risk of the weather changing on me. A gasoline rig, with EFI, synthetic oil, a battery in good condition, and no external pre-heat will just barely start under those conditions. A diesel? Forget it. You can get engine block/oil pan/battery heaters, and I have those, but sometimes due to snow I've got to park farther away from my place than I want to lug a generator.
On the other hand, if I lived down south and wasn't doing as much stop and go city driving, I'd be looking into getting a Cummins 4bt out of a bread truck installed. A number of people have made that conversion and it seems to work okay.
Spiffy
08-13-2011, 03:43 PM
You can buy one on your own, and have the diesel engine retrofitted! Unfortunately, last I heard, you would end up with a $50,000 JK? I think A.E.V. offers one.
What I have read it only fits in a 97 to 06. But it does cost a lot.
Vigilant
08-15-2011, 08:08 AM
I've driven the first of the 2012 Wranglers that hit our lot. The new engine is the 3.6L Pentastar and the automatic transmission has gone from 4 to 5 speed. Wranglers now have passing speed. We're gonna sell a blue ton of them.Got a Sahara Tan Rubicon with soft top and black fenders? It's almost time for the 08 to find a new home?
cco45acp
09-16-2011, 02:32 PM
Bump to check if there is any new rumors of a diesel wrangler coming out
McTavish
09-16-2011, 02:35 PM
Not anytime soon from friends on the inside.
Thank the EPA.
cco45acp
09-16-2011, 02:38 PM
Not anytime soon from friends on the inside.
Thank the EPA.
Thanks. Can't understand why they are legal in tree hugging parts of Europe but a threat to life as we know it here in the USA.
McTavish
09-16-2011, 02:41 PM
Not sure, VW has a great small one that sold a bunch here but who knows.
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