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GlockHandgunner
12-23-2003, 08:23 AM
Ok...I am looking for a wise choice in 9mm carry ammo... for a civilian! Gold Dot? SXT? What will get the job done the best. FYI my primary carry gun is the Glock 19.

Al Lipscomb
12-23-2003, 10:06 AM
I have a Glock 19 and tend to carry Speer Gold Dot in either 124 grain +p or 147 grain standard loads. Testing has shown these are both good choices.

My selection of the Speer offering was based on performance that was acceptable and its availability. The Gold Dot bullet is used by Speer as well as a number of other loaders.

Other rounds, such as the Golden Saber or Winchester RA9T may be available in your area and would make a good choice as well.

Vig Creed
12-23-2003, 10:27 AM
I like high-velocity + deep-penetration, so I carry Speer Gold Dot 115gr +P+ bonded JHP's, usually available for +/- $13/50 at Kieslers on-line.

1214fps in 2" J-frame

1306fps in 4.5" auto

Truth is, just about any current +P or +P+ name-brand 9mm JHP should be satisfactory for defense. I based my personal choice on a combination of velocity, penetration, availability, low cost and reliability.

creed

Rob96
12-24-2003, 01:15 AM
I carry Speer 124gr+p Gold Dots in my G19.

GLR40
12-24-2003, 05:59 AM
i carry ranger 147 SXT primarily, but the ranger 127+P+ is great and the speer 124+P and 147 gold dot is good also if the ranger is unavailable, ya can get the ranger on the net cheap though so ii use ranger.

GR

Young9mmGunner
10-02-2004, 08:35 PM
I just started to carry concealed and have Federal Hydra-shok 135 grain.

dgg9
10-03-2004, 05:03 AM
I just started to carry concealed and have Federal Hydra-shok 135 grain.

Do a search on this board. Hydrashok, while perhaps once state of the art, has fallen way down in the pecking order. There are better rounds.

My advice: pick one of the better rounds, make sure it cycles reliably in your gun, then forget about it as an issue.

RFrier
10-03-2004, 05:37 AM
The most accurate round I have found for my Browning Hi-Powers and therefore carry is the Winchester 147gr SXT. I particularly like heavy bullets with deep penetration. Both on-duty and off-duty.

Young9mmGunner
10-03-2004, 06:19 AM
What is wrong with the Hydra-Shok? I am new @ this what are some better rounds for deep penetration? :confused:

Al Lipscomb
10-03-2004, 06:33 AM
What is wrong with the Hydra-Shok? I am new @ this what are some better rounds for deep penetration? :confused:
When designed the FBI parameters for a round involved penetration depth into ballistic gelatin. The round had to expand and penetrate to a given depth.

Then someone discovered that the hollow point of a JHP could clog. Even simple cotton clothing could result in a bullet not expanding. So when barrier penetration was added to the mix the Hydra-Shok started to fall behind other JHP rounds.

The chart here: http://le.atk.com/Interior.asp?section=2&page=pages/ccispeer/ccispeer_GoldDot.asp

Gives some information.

dgg9
10-03-2004, 06:35 AM
What is wrong with the Hydra-Shok? I am new @ this what are some better rounds for deep penetration? :confused:

I'm not really the expert. As I said, there are plenty of useful carry-ammo threads here on WT.

michael
10-03-2004, 08:42 AM
Stick with either Black Hils/Speer Gold Dot in 124 or 147 grain, Winchester Ranger T in 147 grain, IF they work well in your gun(reliably) and IF you can shoot them accurately. I carry the 147 grain Ranger T or Gold Dot 147's exclusively. Both work well from my Glock 19 and are the pick of the litter, IMHO. Stay away from the 115 grain in any brand--they are the worst performers.

B0486
10-03-2004, 11:39 AM
The 9mm hydrashok never floated a boat for me after I saw one punched through a 2x4 on the 2 side from 5-7 feet, barely making it through, and could have been reloaded afterwards.

At one time I was really enamored with the light fast +p 9mm's as the best at stopping someone in that caliber. Fortunately I mostly carried a 45acp platform all those years though. ;)

Robin Brown

GLV
10-03-2004, 01:52 PM
Is a terrible performer--at about 1400fps BHP, 14" in jello thru the 4layers of denim, and expanded to .566. SD for 10 rounds from P7M8 was 2, and from BHP was 4. Terrible stuff :p

GLV
10-04-2004, 05:28 PM
Do I know them? No. Do the people I observe know them? Yes. Are they followed? Yes they are.

Al Lipscomb
10-04-2004, 07:01 PM
Do I know them? No. Do the people I observe know them? Yes. Are they followed? Yes they are.
And who would these people be?

imb
10-05-2004, 09:51 AM
Please educate me..

Are the heavier weights needed to ensure deeper penetration when your target is wearing heavy clothing (cold climate)?

If they're in a hot climate and wearing one light garment would 115gr be enough to perform adequtely without risking overpenetration?

michael
10-05-2004, 09:56 AM
imb,

Heavy clothing is one factor, but not the only one. The #1 cause of failures to stop is the lack of penetration. I and many others on this forum carry the heavier rounds all the time. It is always possible that you may need to shoot through an arm or intermediate barrier between you and the BG, or he may just be heavy and a great deal of tissue has to be traversed before reaching the vitals. I prefer the 147 grain in 9mm, and carry either the Winchester Ranger T (RA9T) or Speer Gold Dot.

glockman23
10-19-2004, 04:31 PM
check out the new issue of combat handguns they have a article about the new dpx ammo from corbon.it looks impressavie for the 9mm 14.5" pen .57 expand almost 1400fps vel

MikeO
10-21-2004, 08:36 PM
... and what's in the ammo locker. ;)

Could be 124 GD, 124 +P GD, 124 GS, 124 +P GS, 124 HST, 124 +P EFMJ, 115 +P DPX...

Or the Win 110 SJHP or 145 Silvertip or 110 DPX (+P+?) ...

Or the 165 EFMJ, HST, GD, GS. Or the 180s of same...

More worried about how I shoot than what.

Gadzooks, some of ya act like this load selection stuff was, oh, I dunno, a matter of life and death!? ;)