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Tom Givens
09-29-2003, 12:53 PM
Rangemaster's Pro Shop finally received a new Glock 37 in .45 Glock. Here are some preliminary impressions.
Overall, the G37 is almost identical to a G22 in size. The grip frame is exactly the same, but the slide on the G37 is .12" thicker than the slide of a G22. This will prevent use of the G37 in a holster properly fitted for a G17/22.
The G37 magazine is marked for 10 rounds. New, it's pretty hard to get all 10 in, but I expect that to change as the mag wears in a bit.
Three shooters tried the gun informally for accuracy, and it shot very well. At 7 yards, the group is just one ragged hole, right on the sights. Fast pairs were easy at 7-10 yards.
We have Speer Gold Dot 200 grain hollow points, and Speer Lawman 200 grain full metal jacket ammo on hand. Recoil is about identical to .40 S&W 180 loads in a G23 or G22. This is no surprise, since the .45 GAP starts the 200 grain loads at about 960 fps. The Gold Dot bullet is an excellent one, with a good record. A 200 at 960 should work very well indeed, without stressing the gun or shooter.
More info when we get more rounds downrange.

george sherman
09-29-2003, 05:33 PM
Tom, how hard is it to seat and lock a full magazine in the G37?

Tom Givens
09-29-2003, 09:38 PM
George, I personally had no difficulty seating magazines, and no one else mentioned that.

SGTF109
09-30-2003, 12:44 PM
Tom, Do you see the G37 making its way into the police market as well or better than the .40 S&W round? In your own opinion.

Tom Givens
09-30-2003, 02:07 PM
This is strictly my guess, but I do not see the .45GAP becoming anywhere near as popular in LE circles as the .40 S&W. Had the .45 GAP come out in 1990 and the .40 today, that might be different.
For agencies that have .40's, there will be little perceived need to change. I imagine a few agencies will go to the .45GAP, about like the .357 SIG in its first few years.

SGTF109
10-01-2003, 05:21 AM
This is strictly my guess, but I do not see the .45GAP becoming anywhere near as popular in LE circles as the .40 S&W. Had the .45 GAP come out in 1990 and the .40 today, that might be different.
For agencies that have .40's, there will be little perceived need to change. I imagine a few agencies will go to the .45GAP, about like the .357 SIG in its first few years.

Good point ! I agree. Thanks :)

george sherman
10-01-2003, 01:52 PM
George, I personally had no difficulty seating magazines, and no one else mentioned that.

Thanks Tom, with some guns I have found that is an issue.

Bill Stringer
10-05-2003, 04:53 PM
Tom,

What type of sights were on your G-37?

My 37 should be here this week and I'm thinking about putting Heinie rear with a trijicon front.

Thanks for the in put.

Bill

Tom Givens
10-05-2003, 07:47 PM
Bill,

The G37's we've handled had the standard Glock fixed sights. If I were going to carry one, I would use Heinie fixed sights on it.

Tom

Bill Stringer
10-06-2003, 02:09 AM
Bill,

The G37's we've handled had the standard Glock fixed sights. If I were going to carry one, I would use Heinie fixed sights on it.

Tom

Thanks Tom. I've have the Heinies on my CZ and they work better than the Novak with my eyes so Heinies it will be.

Let me know about the conference in Feb. I'm planning on coming this year.

Bill

maxmanta
10-09-2003, 10:43 PM
I looked at the ammo for the first time today and with it's small pistol primer and high pressure charge, it's more of a beefed up .40 than a shortened .45.

There's two reasons for its existence. First it's meant to stuff a .45 caliber cartridge into a Glock 9mm/.40 frame. Second, it's for countries (like Italy, for instance) where shooters cannot own a pistol chambered for a military cartridge.

I doubt it was really uintended for the American market. But if it sells well we'll see more of 'em.

CarlosDJackal
10-13-2003, 10:27 AM
I looked at the ammo for the first time today and with it's small pistol primer and high pressure charge, it's more of a beefed up .40 than a shortened .45.

There's two reasons for its existence. First it's meant to stuff a .45 caliber cartridge into a Glock 9mm/.40 frame. Second, it's for countries (like Italy, for instance) where shooters cannot own a pistol chambered for a military cartridge.

I doubt it was really uintended for the American market. But if it sells well we'll see more of 'em.

You forgot a third reason: Gaston Glock wanted his name on a cartridge (just like S&W, Winchester, Remington, and Sig). :D

Hasher
10-24-2003, 08:41 PM
Saw one for the first time today/ Ho Hum. Saw the ammo and I think it will do just dandy on full moon clips in my 625 Mountain Gun. Other than that it looks like an answer in search of a question. YMMV.

Hasher

John Silver
10-24-2003, 09:08 PM
What did Cooper say about DA pistols? "An ingenious solution to a non-existant problem." Yeah, that might just be the .45GAP.