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shane
11-02-2006, 10:55 PM
...go off if the safeties were to fail? Would there be enough force from the
firing pin to set off the round if it were to drop from the semi-cocked
position.

Thanks,
Shane

KravJeff
11-02-2006, 11:02 PM
I'm certain that there are others on this forum who are much more qualified than myself to answer your question. However, since I was the first to see it ...

I would say that any gun can and will go off if the safety fails. However, because of the safety systems employed in Glocks, I believe it's unlikely that it would fire if dropped.

See here for some specifications: http://www.glock.com/_safe_action_.htm

Good luck - Stay safe!

Joseph Timbs
11-02-2006, 11:08 PM
I suppose that it's possible , but that would be extreme failure do to neglect.

shane
11-02-2006, 11:23 PM
Thanks guys. My main concern that if I get one I will carry it appendix in
a belley band and that would be a bad place for it to fail :eek:.

Thanks,
Shane

Joseph Timbs
11-02-2006, 11:40 PM
It wouldn't just go off . Either the safety would fail as soon as you chambered the round or ( and most likely ) the gun would go off after receiving a sharp rap to the slide.

TiroFijo
11-03-2006, 03:45 AM
Most probably it won't go off even if all safeties fail. There is not enough energy in the half cocked striker to ignite a primer unless you have an extra soft and sensitive one for some fluke. Glocks are notorious for light primer strikes when crud builds up in the FP channel, there is not much "overbuilt" in this area like in a conventional external hammer pistol.

DO worry about the trigger getting pulled (entangled with something) while you holster it!! That is something you have to be VERY careful about.

John W in SC
11-03-2006, 04:12 AM
Glocks are built with a very dangerous design feature. They go bang just about every time you pull the trigger.

If you are going to risk the lives of yourself and anyone within gunshot range, you will have to learn to keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot, to keep the gun pointed in a safe direction, to be sure of your target and what is behind it, and a bunch of other silly rules that don't apply to guns that aren't dangerous.

Glocks are great guns. You have many things to worry about in life. Your Glock going off because of a simultaneous failure of all safety systems is pretty far down on the list.

John W in SC

georgel
11-03-2006, 04:17 AM
I've dropped mine on to concrete from chest high. They don't go off.

And I didn't expect it to. Pre-80's 1911 designs without the firing pin block or heavy spring, however, will. :eek:

By far the trigger and staying out of it is the safety issue with Glocks.

DragonFire
11-03-2006, 05:49 AM
The answer is NO. In the unlikely event all 3 safeties magically dissapeared due to a gremlin in your pants, the Glock would not fire because the Striker is never "cocked" until the trigger is pulled. - as in you must pull the trigger.

READ YOUR MANUAL AND DISCOVER THE MAGICAL GLOCK SAFE ACTION!

DaveJames
11-03-2006, 09:24 AM
ANY THING MAN MADE CAN AND WILL FAIL!!

Treat it as such and there will be no problems

The Searcher
11-03-2006, 10:25 AM
I would worry a lot more about something getting caught in the triggerguard like your shirt and pressing the trigger when you are holstering the weapon than I would a discharge due to purely mechanical failure.

shane
11-03-2006, 01:05 PM
Thanks all for the replies :)

Shane

DragonFire
11-03-2006, 01:53 PM
I've carried a G26 daily in a belly band for over 3 years. Belly Bands are very versatile and extremely concealable. Unless your BellyBand is really messed up, it will not compromise the Glock Safe Action.

Lastly - I seen thousands of message board threads asking the same IGNORANT questions about the Glock's safeties or lack of safeties - as some would claim. I say IGNORANT because most new Glocker's didn't take the time to learn about and understand HOW their pistols function. If they did, then they would not doubt or question the Glock Safe Action. I really love the gurus who scream about the "SUPER, MEGA Dangerous Plastic Pistol that Doesn't have a Safety" - and yet these same guys can't draw the comparison to the EVIL REVOLVER-type-assault pistols! You know - those heavy, wheel guns - WITHOUT safeties!!! Where all you have to do is PULL THE TRIGGER to make it go bang!

If you want to see a REALLY cool animation that shows the detailed operation of the Glock pistol and all of it's parts & pieces go to:

http://www.sniperworld.com/glock/


Old Man Gaston's version:
http://www.glock.com/_safe_action_.htm

The 1911: http://www.m1911.org/loader.swf

pjb829
11-03-2006, 02:21 PM
Let me start off by saying I think Glocks are one of the greatest pistols ever made.

However, there is no way I would ever, carry a Glock in a belly band. The chances of something that can engage the trigger AND the little lever inset in the trigger combined with a short and light trigger pull is a recipe for disaster.

If you are going to carry a Glock, carry it in a holster tha covers the trigger guard. Or a the minimum check into the plastic things that wedge behind the trigger.


Pete.

SUAREZ CORPORATE
11-03-2006, 02:26 PM
If you want to see a REALLY cool animation that shows the detailed operation of the Glock pistol and all of it's parts & pieces go to:

http://www.sniperworld.com/glock/


Old Man Gaston's version:
http://www.glock.com/_safe_action_.htm

The 1911: http://www.m1911.org/loader.swf

Anybody care to share with me an easy way to save a Flash animation locally? I would love to put that Glock or 1911 animation in the gunshot wound lecture I give the paramedics.

jack76590
11-03-2006, 03:08 PM
I would worry a lot more about something getting caught in the triggerguard like your shirt and pressing the trigger when you are holstering the weapon than I would a discharge due to purely mechanical failure.

Agree that is the most likely cause of a non wanted discharge.

Can I "dream" up other situations where a glock could discharge? Sure, but highly unlikely to happen.

For instance you could have sensative primer, the firing pin safety gets jammed in nonengaged position and then striker that is partially under spring tension releases from it engagement.

KravJeff
11-03-2006, 10:38 PM
DO worry about the trigger getting pulled (entangled with something) while you holster it!! That is something you have to be VERY careful about.

Especially in the appendix position! :eek:

Eliakim
11-04-2006, 04:08 PM
http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40

I'm sure this has been posted before. It's a link to the guy who gave his G21 a torture test. Among other things, he dropped his G21 with a primed cartridge casing [no bullet for safety] in the chamber out of a small airplane at about 500 feet. It didn't fire the primer, but the pistol still worked fine when he loaded it with live ammo. He also tried throwing the Glock off his roof with the chamber loaded with a primed casing. No bang.

I think that a Glock would take a fall from waist level to a hard floor without firing.

I don't think I'd like to buy a used gun from that fellow. ;)

georgel
11-04-2006, 06:25 PM
http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40

I'm sure this has been posted before. It's a link to the guy who gave his G21 a torture test. Among other things, he dropped his G21 with a primed cartridge casing [no bullet for safety] in the chamber out of a small airplane at about 500 feet. It didn't fire the primer, but the pistol still worked fine when he loaded it with live ammo. He also tried throwing the Glock off his roof with the chamber loaded with a primed casing. No bang.

I think that a Glock would take a fall from waist level to a hard floor without firing.

I don't think I'd like to buy a used gun from that fellow. ;)


Mine shows no evidence of being dropped.:D

Tactician
11-10-2006, 05:26 PM
Mine shows no evidence of being dropped.:D

I thought I was being safe unstrapping my Fobus holster containing a G17 with one in the pipe and a full magazine and placing it on the back of the toliet behind me.

The holster and gun slipped off while I was sitting and hit the floor pretty hard. I learned two lessons that day. The Glock safeties do work and NEVER put a gun on a slick toliet tank again!

My Glock shows no evidence of being dropped as well.

If your gonna drop your weapon, I was in a good position not to crap my pants. Of all the ways to end your life, what a way to go. Gaston designed one hell of a pistol and I am very glad he put in a drop safety!